Chemistry Nightmare (warning: rape, violence)

That's what I am talking about. I wouldn't be too bothered about the persons story but the fact that it might be true or they might want it to be true is what I would find unnacceptable. If somebody said I honestly did rape someone or I want to rape someone it would bother me.

First of all, Gonad, I don't think the reaction here can be considered by you to be 'warm'. Heated, maybe. That said, you are taking the critisism remarkably well. Because I think it is directed somewhat personally. There is something terribly off in the themes you dealt with in your story and I find them very disturbing, and by extension, you, as author, a bit as well. I think Elro expressed it best. Rape, self mutilation, sick self -image, larceny, carrer implosion, Aids allusions and the strangest turn of all, the utterly inexplicable acceptance of the neutered protagonist at the end by his 'girlfriend' in a loveless mercy marriage...what?? I mean really, I realize its fiction but as I asked, what point were you making? Certainly I don't think the word entertainment adequately covers it. As someone said above, I would be interested to hear for whom and where else you've written simply to have a better idea where you're coming from.

Cheers

I can't speak for the author but I just figured it was to add a shock value to it. I figured it was meant to be disturbing, usually things like rape, incest, murder, etc. are usually to add a shock value when they go into detail about them. I can't really explain the end. Maybe since the guy lost what made him that way he ended up with another thing that he wanted. But the tragedy of it is he never gets what he wanted to use his new penis for in the first place. Well maybe not a tragedy since he was a bad guy throughout a lot of the story. The story has a lot of irony in it though.

I've seen some gay porn like this - huge dicks, rape, and dismembership were central to the plot, as well as torture and humiliation. What is weird is my desire to read the whole damn thing, trying to filter out the gross details and concentrate on the huge dicks and their capabililities.

Did everyone here read the whole damn thing?

I agree with Spoiled Princess, HotMilf, and ganja4me. For myself, I actually appreciate someone going outside the social restrictions, the ability to be imaginative. I have a friend who writes incredible stories and some of them are very twisted, but I appreciate them for what they are. Think of the outcry against Catcher in the Rye. Groups that have had Harlequin Romance bon fires. The plethera of horror and butcher movies and violent video games. We all have different tastes as to what we find "entertaining".

Let's burn her too! How dare she speak highly of a story based on rape???

Oh, the horror!

I didn't speak highly of it I defended his right to write about it. From Streetcar named Desire to Straw Dogs rape has often been used in theater/writing etc. Should we ban everything that has an unsavoury aspect to it?

Oh don't try to be smart. There is a huge difference between the examples you use and this attempt to glamorise and enjoy rape.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and no amount of trying to appear learned or deep will change that or make you appear intelligent.

I think I am an authority on what is being attempted here, and I don't think I was attempting to glamorize rape. I was attempting to use rape as a tool to make the reader dislike the protagonist. Judging from many of the responses, I think I was successful.

I have been pondering how I could write a story that would be more positively accepted on this site, but it is difficult. I'm not the sort who can just write a sex blurb; unless there is a real story of some sort, I can't have fun with it. A story naturally requires some sort of conflict and tension. I realize that there has to be some negativity in every story that I write. I'm just hoping to minimize it's shock effect in my next story.

I've been considering moving away from horror and towards romance, but I'm not sure how to keep the focus on the penis in a romance. I've toyed around with a few plot ideas, but I haven't been able to find a way to center an interesting romance story around a penis.

An alternative would be a illness story about the trials of keeping a large penis in good working order, but I have doubts that such a story would be well accepted.

My point is that it's not easy to come up with powerful conflict in a penis-centric story. Maybe you can see why I like to include rape; it's by far the easiest way to put the required tension into a story about sex.

Btrell shush adults are talking.

I want to say this clearly... YES it is totally fine to get off on rape. Obviously. You twat. Did you forget to draw the line between image and act, between getting off ON rape and getting off VIA rape? I will admit that when I imagine a lack of consent from my girlfriend, I am damaging my girlfriend - the imaginary girlfriend in my fucking head!! (My real girlfriend, by the way, also enjoys rape fantasies [oh and she has used THE DREADED R WORD when describing them] and I am even happy to oblige her to some extent.)

GMAFB (or Give Me A Fucking Break). In conclusion to my non-sequitur reply I present a selection from my favorite sex-advice column, Savage Love (by Dan Savage).

"Women's rape fantasies come up pretty frequently in the column, but men's rape fantasies don't come up so much. I am a mid-20s straight woman who dates a lot. Even though I occasionally fantasize about being raped and I make it perfectly clear to the men I date that this is just a fantasy, I am creeped out by the fact that some of the men I've dated have fantasies of raping women. Do you think that's unfair? -Double Standard

Yes I do, DS. Women who open up about rape fantasies—with their partners, in letters to skeezy sex-advice columnists—are always quick to include a qualifier along the lines of "this is just a fantasy," making it clear to all that they are not interested in actually being raped. Well, just as a woman can have rape fantasies without wanting to be the victim of an actual rape, a man can have rapist fantasies without wanting to commit an actual rape. And really, DS, where would ladies with rape-victim fantasies be without men with rape-perp fantasies?"

I think that would be entertaining! I'd read it anyway.

You're not the only one to say so! There is a whole world of options for illnesses. Most of the real ones are rather icky and require much research, but I think a fantastic one might be fun. Any thoughts on what sort of illness would be most entertaining?

I'm slightly nervous about what would be acceptable here. The jabs at the unacceptable are rather sharp!

this whole part was a series of unintentional lols

I respect the author's right to write about whatever he wants, even if it's not my thing (I've explained it, by the way), but what shocks me in this story is that Gonad applied himself to make us hate the protagonist...

Which may be writer's trick or technique in its own right, but doesn't compel anyone to read on. I had to force myself to get through even such a short piece. This author should probably be well advised to change that if he wants readers, especially if he undertakes something longer.

In any case, I doubt that this story or any such story has its place on this website (although I wouldn't know, since I'm not an administrator or anything), because, hell, let's face it, we only want to jerk off in this section !