08-01-2007
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#61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by viking1 I am not going to try and find it, but there were some posts about this back when this occurred. This was about the time you joined. The gallery had been opened several times over the course of a couple of weeks. I don't know if it was intentional, to attract more members, or if it was due to work being done on the server set up. Most of those here when this happened know about it. It wasn't supposed to be that way, and it no longer is. You must be a registered, gold member now to view full sized pics, or any videos. | Yes, that's what I was going to post. The gallery pics were available to anyone at certain points over a period of about a month or so. Everything's returned to normal now though and only paying members can see full size pics. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rawbone8 Create two levels of curtailment of access/posting for offenders.
Suspended for first time, second time etc. offenders. Limited to one week at a time. Banned for the irredeemable outcasts, but use it extremely sparingly.
Allow for a grievance procedure, for exceptional advocation. Explain bannings in a coherent, open way with the banned, and publish a short reason probably with a reference to the TOS, so that long time members won't be as upset by the loss of friends. Fairness should apparent. No need to do this with the suspension.
Give the mods direction on a more hands-off sensitivity to intervention, except for under age members.
Tolerate differences of opinion and communication style. Curmudgeons, flamers, argumentative SOBs, and snarky humour should be allowed in appropriate threads. Mere disruption, heated criticism and pissing in someone's cornflakes should not be bannable offences in Etcetera, for example. Or create a new category to move a thread to and call it Gloves Off or The Bear Pit and then let it fly. Overt racism, homophobic hatred and issuing physical threats or illegality may be still set up as limits that construe terms for banning. Refinements can be discussed for protection of the site owner's interests.
Change the mods and co-admins regularly. | I fully support these suggestions.
In addition:
Blatant trolling of gallery comments should be subject to suspension and ban. When a member reports trolling of his or her gallery, have a mod or admin look into it, and decide if it was a suspendable offence.
In addition, I believe that if this continues to be a problem, maybe the comment feature should be under review as a whole? | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#63 (permalink)
| | | Please do not make the galleries pay-only. They are one of my favorite things about this place.
I have a suggestion about the galleries, which some are eager to close off to some degree. Make the galleries visible only to those who are verified (with the notecard/username or whatever) and have at least one photo or video on the site. This ensures that those who use the galleries are not random spammers and are also contributing to the community. This barrier for entry feels lower to me than paying out of pocket.
I do not believe that this website is, at the end of the day, a business. If it were I would not be here, for the same reason I've never joined a pay-for-porn site or Adult Friend Finder... because when a site's owners get too greedy there suddenly grows a better community or resource availble for free... please do not drive away these users with a change akin to turning a piazza into a mall court. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#64 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SpoiledPrincess Ideas I don't think would help:- 6 – Removing access to galleries in any form for non gold members. The one thing that paying members get that non paying members don’t is access to large size photos, it therefore stands to reason the only thing that would tempt someone into paying is the availability of photos, so to say that a non paying member who posts photos shouldn’t be classed equally with a paying member and shouldn’t have gallery access doesn’t quite hold water, we more than pay our way here. It’s been said that pictures aren’t the only reason for LPSG but they are the only reason for anyone to become a gold member so I feel that I contribute quite as much as someone who has paid and therefore I deserve to see the thumbnails at the very least. In the old ToS it was stated that every member was of equal importance and I feel that this should be put back into it. | I agree with all the points you made SP.On this particular point I want to add that the vast majority of gallery pics/videos are from non-paying members.As Wldhoney indicated earlier,most of us would delete our galleries if we had no access at all.If that were to happen I doubt the Gold Members would be very happy about it!
I think there is one change that needs to be made with the galleries.Give us the ability to delete comments left by trolls.This feature is available on other sites that I've posted on so it shouldn't be a problem to set up here.
I can think of a few incidents that could have been avoided if the photo owners could have thrown the insults straight in the bin. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#65 (permalink)
| | | I know a lot of people who feel that would be a good feature Yorkie, on this site the last time I checked I hadn't got any negative comments, on another site I did and personally I feel it's much better to leave them there, it doesn't reflect badly on the poster, it does reflect badly on the knob who left the negative comment, however I believe that this should be an individual choice, a lot of people get really upset by negative comments and quite rightly, they're giving people for free the chance to see them naked and they don't deserve any crap for doing that. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#66 (permalink)
| | | I agree with the suggestions for limiting the ability of new members to start threads. I'd say a combination of time and number of posts would be the way to go. Perhaps a minimum of 50 posts and one month of membership. But also perhaps start them off with the ability to make up to three threads in that time, that way they aren't completely shut out.
I also agree partly with the suggestion of letting gold members have a vote for new mods. I say "partly" because I'd suggest letting all members vote for new mods. Perhaps there would be an application process like the last time, then a nomination by the current mods of a few people who would then be voted on in an 'election' or poll of some sort. I'd say you should limit the number of mods to between three and five, with the current co-admins staying on.
I think demoting mods who become inactive, or who never show up to vote on mod issues, is a good idea. This was something that occured with a number of members on the former mod team, and something which is happening again on this team. Those demoted mods would then be replaced from the list of original applicants by the mod team. Only if those people agree to do it, of course.
Another suggestion I like is giving simple reasons for why a member has been banned. As many have already said, it doesn't have to be an entire summary, but rather a simple description of what the offense was, noted under that person's username. Underage, spammer, multiple accounts, etc.
Something that I would suggest is merging similar threads more often. It is currently rarely ever done. I'd say that it's needed more often, especially with the many duplicate threads in the Celebrity Endowments forum.
Another suggestion I have is for a photos forum where members can call attention to their new pics in the gallery and for the "rate my cock" type of threads. It might also be a place for those general photo request threads which usually go into the Sex With a Large Penis and Celebrity Endowments forums, but that don't really fit well into either. Also, I think it would be the right place for the current "Rate the Person Above You" and "Say Something Nice.." threads.
Finally, I like the idea and suggestion for a "bear pit" forum of some sort, where members can have at it. Perhaps also have threads from other forums that are devolving into shouting matches moved there, as a sort of shame tactic. Eventually moving them back to their original forum, once the given heated situation settles down. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#67 (permalink)
| | | I have a couple problems with some of the suggestions on here. I know I'm not exactly the cream-of-the-crop member. I have a limited number of posts (ones that I hope are mostly dense and relevant) and I don't have a paid membership. I am 18 (almost 19, Woohoo!) and do not possess a credit card or debit card and do not have access to online banking. This is the reason why I am not a paid member, and even when I do get some plastic in a month or two, my parents will see my payments and I will be unable to donate money and become a paid member. I enjoy viewing the thumbnails of members I see posting on the forum and I also enjoy submitting some of my photos that other members can look at. I would not want either of these privileges revoked simply because I am in an inescapable situation. I also would not like the idea of having to reach 100 posts before being able to start a topic. Though I have not started a topic as of yet, I will in the future, and as I am a slow poster a post requirement would hurt me. I like the idea of having your initial posts informally or formally monitored instead.
As for other ideas, I think the two most important issues facing a site such as this are underage users and fake users. Although I do not know how such a verification would work (as even an of-age user like me would be unable to submit credit card information) I think we must combat these two things most of all. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#68 (permalink)
| | | The problem I see with a bear pit is that while it might sound like fun I'm sure that it would get out of hand and the hostility that was generated there would be carried over to other threads - people who might feel a little constrained by the presence of the calmer posters in the other forums would be able to build up a huge hatred of one another which they couldn't leave in the bear pit. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#69 (permalink)
| | | So, I'll admit that I'm responding too soon... I'm incredibly tired, and have only read the first few posts... but I'm just going to give my opinion now, then continue reading at another time. I think we should have a "X Strikes, You're out" plan. (X being whatever number you choose.) I think if a person gets reported a certain number of times for rude comments in the forum, chat room, gallery, OR in PM's, then they should be banned, no questions asked. 5, 10, whatever. The ONLY negative thing about that, is one person could be offended by a comment and ask all their friends to report the person at fault... and then in theory, that person could end up being banned after one negative comment, which I'm not sure is necessarily fair. So you can pick the number. Maybe this idea needs a little tweaking. But it was the first thing that came to mind! | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#70 (permalink)
| | | In order not to fight or argue over other suggestions I am posting without reading this thread. Excuse me if I am repeating something or suggesting something that has already been shot down.
I am going to offer one or two quick suggestions. First though some will disagree you need to make the moderators each hold a separate account for their moderator actions You know “moderator 1, moderator 2, moderator 3 etc. By doing this when a moderator in effect said that those who are not paying members are not contributors I would know if it was a moderator or a member. You would not even need to disclose who is who. If you appointed Zora next month she would become moderator 8. Providing she did not disclose that she was a moderator she could rail against decisions that she saw as a crock while moderator 8 would toe the official line. I know with the leaks around here it is unlikely to work that well, but it would still let me know when I see a thread such as Getting quieter, going back to normal around here. if it was a moderator who feels that I am a troll or a member.
Second You need to come out for your moderators more often. If Heath were to post that he removed the links to the site I would wonder on whose authority. If he were to do so and you came out and said that you personally approve the action as the owner I would shrug. It seems like a pain in the ass to have to come down and post whenever a high profile ban occurs but as much as many of us would still be pissed and may continue writing words against it there would be no doubt that it was your will instead of Heath having to say that “we serve at Rob-E's will and he has the power to remove us if he does not like this decision.” Like I said, it will not make it easier to swallow that a friend is not banned but it will make it clear that it was not just a couple of moderators.
Finally, changing the TOS to read “anyone found in violation of the TOS will be banned and the reason for their ban posted on the board.” Then post member XXX was banned permanently/temporarily for violating section YYY of the TOS.” Again it will not take care of everything- even I may be pushing for specifics if I did not see member XXX violating the TOS, but it would go a long way towards transparency and you would have the privacy issue taken care of as people would agree to it when they signed up.
That is about it- take the suggestions or leave them. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#71 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rikter8 4. Remove the ability to right click and save photos. | I think this is a great idea, and in response to Rubi's question about it - it would keep people from stealing other peoples pictures as much! (Granted, they can get them off porn sites or whatever... but people seem to like stealing them from other members since they seem more "real") Quote:
Originally Posted by dong20 New members cannot start threads until they have say 100 posts logged?
I like the suspended status. Like a temporary ban, only without the cache. | I agree with you to a certain point... 100 posts seems a little extensive... I joined a messageboard a while back that demanded 50 posts before I could start threads or adjust my profile, and it drove me up the freakn wall. I was responding to anything and everything just so I could get 50 posts and start making my own damn threads. | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#72 (permalink)
| | | All you need to do is get firefox and drag the photo into the adress bar
yay for being a geek | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#73 (permalink)
| | | I don't know if this would be feasible or not... but maybe we should let mods only be mods for 6 months instead of a year. Mods would be required to take one 6 month period off before becoming a mod again (if they so choose to). I can imagine that being a moderator on this site can be INCREDIBLY intsense and somewhat stressful... and I have said before that I would love to be a moderator on here, but I honestly am not sure if I could handle it for a full year. I could commit to 6 months, though... and knowing that I'd always be able to come back if I wanted would be nice as well.
(And before anyone asks... I do still enjoy this place greatly, which is why I'm still here contributing. Yes, I'm a member on the "other" site as well, but I have my personal reasons for doing that, and I hope you call can understand.) | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#74 (permalink)
| | | I like allowing new folks to start threads. Of course occasionally someone is obnoxious about it, but it's OK for us to let them know not to start 40 new threads a day, or tell them about the search function, whatever - even without being snarky. Anyway, I'd say many of us need heels to nip at. No?
I like this idea - I think it's headed in the right direction: Quote:
Originally Posted by dolf250 Finally, changing the TOS to read “anyone found in violation of the TOS will be banned and the reason for their ban posted on the board.” Then post member XXX was banned permanently/temporarily for violating section YYY of the TOS.” Again it will not take care of everything- even I may be pushing for specifics if I did not see member XXX violating the TOS, but it would go a long way towards transparency and you would have the privacy issue taken care of as people would agree to it when they signed up. | | | | |
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08-01-2007
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#75 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by novice_btm Arrg, I was going to be brilliant and tell you about the "Save" feature, but Mindseye beat me to it. I think that vBulletin actually supports a "Reputation" system, which sounds similar. I swear it was a vB site where I saw it before, and was actually going to suggest it to Big Rob before, but not sure that I ever did. So, I guess this is my chance.
I actually belong to other sites, where your first __ number of posts are actually moderated, and it's only after they get a sense of you, that they lift that for you to post unfettered. | I was just going to post on this but you beat me to it. vBulletin has a "Thanks" and "No Thanks" option for posts. At another forum I am part of we use that, and it keeps track how many useful posts people have gotten, and how many they have given.
I think the only issue with that is it would put more stress on the moderators to have to watch so many people. | | | |
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