can guys be raped by women?

ganja4me · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by dolfette

yes, when being violated and abused we SHOULD react how he says.

I'm not saying people should react that way but it seems to me it would make a lot more sense if the body did react that way.

Big Dreamer · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by dolfette

yes, when being violated and abused we SHOULD react how he says.

Yup. Every rape needs to be identical to Jodie Foster getting violated on a pinball machine in The Accused, or it technically isn't rape.

warmhorizon · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

What I am saying is my point seems logical. You don't think it is odd that your body would react like it wants the sex even though your brain doesn't want it.

We just SAID that we DID think it was odd, it makes no sense and it shouldn't happen but the point that we're trying to drive home is that it DOES happen and it is NOT our fault! I don't know, maybe your dick is fitted with some kind of siren that goes off when it detects unauthorised entry but I can only speak for myself and anyone else who has been burned enough to not want to say it.

dolfette · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

I'm not saying people should react that way but it seems to me it would make a lot more sense if the body did react that way.

wel it doesn't always.

FACT

it just doesn't.

so please stop posting such utter shite as if it's reality. thanks.

mercurialbliss · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

I'm not saying people should react that way but it seems to me it would make a lot more sense if the body did react that way.

Why? The very act of rape doesn't make sense.

ganja4me · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by dolfette

of course it matters!

women and men who are so ashamed of how their bodies reacted, who are certain that the morons won't believe it was rape because of this, keep their rape as a dirty secret.

really, if the best you can do is "well i saw a few interviews" then you know fuck all about rape.

but you still post here, belittling the real pain suffered by victims, just because their bodies did what nature programmed them to.
nice one!

You are twisting what I am saying and trying to make me look like a bad person which is childish. I believe I did say that I may be wrong. I never claimed to be an expert on the situation. From the information I have been given you are wrong about the women getting wet. I guess from your information I am wrong. But I think it is wrong and ignorant for you to say I am trying to belittle rape victims. I am merely stating what I have heard about it and my view on it. I am not saying it is wrong for people to react that way just that it seems odd that would happen.

dolfette · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Big Dreamer

Yup. Every rape needs to be identical to Jodie Foster getting violated on a pinball machine in The Accused, or it technically isn't rape.

and i wonder why only 5% of reported rapes end in conviction.

and i wonder why an estimates 85% of rapes aren't even reported.

warmhorizon · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

You are twisting what I am saying and trying to make me look like a bad person which is childish.

Actually we're quoting you verbatim! Technically, to twist words we'd have to change them in some way or take them out of context. Truth is you're probably a lovely person who does charity work for kittens or something like that but the only impression I'm getting from you is that you have dug a hole by making a stupid comment and don't know when to stop digging!
On the plus side at least you know how working in the White House must feel.

dolfette · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

You are twisting what I am saying and trying to make me look like a bad person which is childish. I believe I did say that I may be wrong. I never claimed to be an expert on the situation. From the information I have been given you are wrong about the women getting wet. I guess from your information I am wrong. But I think it is wrong and ignorant for you to say I am trying to belittle rape victims. I am merely stating what I have heard about it and my view on it. I am not saying it is wrong for people to react that way just that it seems odd that would happen.

so you didn't say " I think if the guy is hard then it isn't really rape because that would mean he is consenting"

and you didn't say "With drugs and alcohol I think it would be difficult to rape a guy because he might not get it up if he is really messed up. Or he will be willing because he is messed up but that is still him giving consent meaning it is not rape."

or "That's why it hurts them so much. The brain is what controls the body so I think if what is going on is really that bad your brain is not going to be sending signals to get ready for sex."

these words offend me.
these words offend the men here who have been through it.
it's hard for me to twist what is already so disgustingly twisted.

ganja4me · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by dolfette

wel it doesn't always.

FACT

it just doesn't.

so please stop posting such utter shite as if it's reality. thanks.

What I have posted is what I have heard so maybe something that I said is reality. I never said everyones body reacts that way but from the information I have heard peoples bodies did react that way. Everything else I posted was just my view on it I never said it was fact. Instead of correcting me and saying sometimes peoples bodies react differently you tried to be rude about it and twist what I am saying to try making me look like a bad guy. I'm sorry I didn't know some people react this way but that is just me being uninformed about certain aspects of the situation. Obviously you took it as me saying I am right and you are wrong which isn't the case.

Big Dreamer · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by warmhorizon

Actually we're quoting you verbatim! Technically, to twist words we'd have to change them in some way or take them out of context. Truth is you're probably a lovely person who does charity work for kittens or something like that but the only impression I'm getting from you is that you have dug a hole by making a stupid comment and don't know when to stop digging!
On the plus side at least you know how working in the White House must feel.

This is identical to the post I was about to pen (you idea robbing bastard!!

) You made a pile of ridiculous statements, ganja4me, and instead of backing down, you're simply watering down your original position with each post, hoping to get it to a bland enough point where people accept it.

ganja4me · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by warmhorizon

Actually we're quoting you verbatim! Technically, to twist words we'd have to change them in some way or take them out of context. Truth is you're probably a lovely person who does charity work for kittens or something like that but the only impression I'm getting from you is that you have dug a hole by making a stupid comment and don't know when to stop digging!
On the plus side at least you know how working in the White House must feel.

Yes but you are not interpreting it the way I am trying to get it across. Is it stupid for me to be less informed? Like I have said I never claimed to be an expert on this just giving my view from my information. If I am wrong about it then I admit it. All I am saying now is I did not know this before and I'm sure a lot of people do not know this. I am not denying that this may happen. I am just saying it seems odd that it does happen.

warmhorizon · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

I'm sorry I didn't know some people react this way but that is just me being uninformed about certain aspects of the situation. Obviously you took it as me saying I am right and you are wrong which isn't the case.

Not to go all zen master on you or anything but think on this:
A man overhears two people saying that a woman has killed her husband. This man then proceeds to gather a crowd and spread the word that the woman has killed her husband and the woman is arrested. A short while later she is bailed out by her, still very much alive, husband.
Now, is it the fault of the man for telling the crowd something that he was "uninformed" about or is it the fault of the crowd for believing him?

ganja4me · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Big Dreamer

This is identical to the post I was about to pen (you idea robbing bastard!! ) You made a pile of ridiculous statements, ganja4me, and instead of backing down, you're simply watering down your original position with each post, hoping to get it to a bland enough point where people accept it.

There is no backing down for me to do. I just wasn't informed about this. What was so ridiculous about my statements. For someone that is not informed about this it would make sense. I understand that this may happen but I still stand by what I said about it not making sense that the body reacts this way. I would think that since the brain has so much control over your body it would not be able to prepare you for sex when something like this is happening to you. I am not trying to water down my original post so people accept it. I accept it if I was wrong I just think this argument never would have happened if others were more sympathetic to the fact that I knew nothing about this happening.

dolfette · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ganja4me

Yes but you are not interpreting it the way I am trying to get it across. Is it stupid for me to be less informed? Like I have said I never claimed to be an expert on this just giving my view from my information. If I am wrong about it then I admit it. All I am saying now is I did not know this before and I'm sure a lot of people do not know this. I am not denying that this may happen. I am just saying it seems odd that it does happen.

it's not stupid to be uninformed.

it's stupid to be uninformed but pretend that you are, while making statements as "facts" which are nothing more than your own flimsy theory.

for the record, unlike warmhorizon, i'm not the least bit sorry if i insulted you

can guys be raped by women?

Originally Posted by dolfette yes, when being violated and abused we SHOULD react how he says. I'm not saying people should react that way but it seems to me it would make a lot more