gay people! help me out!

I'm afraid, in this circumstance, I'd probably go without. Not that I don't appreciate the "cute young women" out there but they have no attractive qualities for me.

Gonna tell you a bit of a story that happened to me many years ago about the last time I was with a girl. We were both in our final year of high school, had been going together for a couple of months, and out in my car. I drove to the local "lovers lane" and we started kissing. As the girl became more aroused, she wanted me to go further, unbuttoned her blouse and pants and invited me to put one hand between her legs and the other around her neck and on her breast. My initial reaction was and internal shudder and a mental "Eww, is this what all the guys are raving about?" The result was; she became much more excited while I became totally detumessed. Needless to say, the date was a disaster and ended our relationship.

Keep in mind that I was raised in a very "Christian" small town culture where you were either "normal" (I.E. totally hetro), or a "perverted child molester who should be castrated". At that time, there were no other choices. Having said that, I knew I found certain men and high school boys very attractive to me and would get instantly hard at the sight of a well sculpted male figure in some of the art books in the library. Michelangelo's David was always good for an afternoon of solo carnal pleasure.

To answer the question - God made me gay for his own reasons and I'm flouting the gift to deny it. I didn't make any choice here, it just happens to be the way my brain is wired.

The hardest thing I've had to accomplish over the years was to get over my early conditioning that to be physically and emotionally attracted to the same sex is wrong. Having made the "choice" that I am in fact the man I am supposed to be and not "a perverted child molester who should be castrated", I'm finally very comfortable in my own skin. For me at least, the only choice was to admit and accept my attraction to men was a major part of who I am and be happpy.

I'll do you for free

I think some people are confusing sexuality with sexual orientation. They are two totally different things. Yes I can have sex with a woman if I choose to. Since I was married for many years, that is pretty good proof. But it is that incredible feeling of excitement and extasy that I just can't have with a woman. Every since I was a little kid, I would always get that stirring in my soul over a shirtless man. I remember my friends looking at playboy. It did absolutely nothing for me. Give me Men's Health magazine, and I would get rock hard. Sure I can appreciate a beautiful woman. But I have no interest in having sex with her. We choose who we have sex with. I don't think we choose what gender totally sends us over the edge.

Same with me. My dad let me look at Playboys when I was little, and that was stimulating, but if I had a choice I'd look at men's muscle mags.

Sexuality and orientation aren't the same thing? Maybe different connotations, but denotation is pretty much the same thing. I'd thing one's "sexual character" would be their "orientation" as well.
I think you're right for the most part on this one...but only instinctually.

You received pretty much the same upbringing as your siblings - that's not the same thing as 'nurture' No one in the world has had the same nurture as you cos no one else has lived your life. [Nurture is just the coverall for experience, outside influence, societal influence, peer pressure, in short everything that happens to us. They just say 'nurture' because nature vs nurture sounds snappy - 'innate vs behavioural' is an older, and prehaps more accurate, expression]
I'm confused though - as I say above - if it isn't from your physical makeup and it isn't learned/behavioural (a result of life experience) - what is it? If you are born a certain way then it must be part of your DNA, and yet you argue that it isn't.

(I agree with you on the gay gene idea - it doesn't work for me on that level and on others too - besides - if there were a gay gene how could one identical twin be gay and the other not? And yet it happens...)

I think that sexual orientation can be compared to right or left handedness. Some people are almost exclusively one or the other some are in betweeen or easily adaptable. As such, I see it as a deeply ingrained propensity, probably hardwired. I could probably learn how to write left-haded, although badly. I doubt I could learn how to draw, even though drawing is something I do reasonably well. It seems to me that most of us are "gifted' one way or the other.

As I mentioned, I think it is just an inborn trait, having nothing to do with genetics or learned behavior. Something more like your tastes in various foods. I have tried (really tried!) to learn to like both turnips and beets, but I still find both to be quite disgusting. All five of my siblings and both of my parents love(d) turnips. I love chocolate, but I know two people who can't stand it. My Mom loved shrimp, but didn't like lobster. My partner loves raw carrots, but won't touch cooked carrots. I understand about "learned aversions" to some foods - i. e., getting sick after eating something then never liking it again; but that's not what I'm talking about here. Just the innate like or dislike of some flavors or scents. It isn't genetic, it isn't learned behavior, it's just there. I think that's how sexual attractions work (at the basic level, of course you can force sexual behavior, but not the basic attraction). Does that make any sense at all?I don't think it's like handedness; those have been proven to be genetically linked.

Damn, is your cock REAL??? I saw your video clip once somewhere and ppl said it looks fake. lol If it's real, it's really HUGE. Glad you have some chubbiness in you. HOT!!!

PS: And yes, being gay is the same thing as being straight. It's all about following what feels right to you. I am only being called "gay" because the society calls me so. I share way more intimate moment with men than women. And I LOVE sucking a cock and getting fucked. This does not mean I do not enjoy fucking a pussy. I have, and it feels good. But I prefer making love with men, emotionally and physically.

WOW! lolz, thanks for your input everybody. Now i know from your point of view, and its plainly obvious to see the truth. And now i have all this extra information you guys all gave me. For some reason, im a fighter for the people somtimes. Like stupid people hating gays, now i have the power to dispell ignorance and open up peoples minds. I used to argue with racist people alot to, and i researched alot of stuff, and now i argue with any racist person they get angry because i prove to them that its pointless. I hate to see hatred for any reason other than to hate hate itself!

So thank you all very much, you are all very helpfull and i enjoyed reading about your life stories they were very interesting. See you guys later on lpsg!! cheya! kekekekeke ^^

It's the same as falling in love, you can't just choose to do so, it comes naturally.'
Oh, I think the problem has already been solved by everyone........okay.

yer partially right. that does occur a lot. but there's also the inmates that have sex because there's no other outlet for their basic need. goin off on a quick tangent...i think they should hand out condoms in prison so that AIDS and other STIs don't get spread around



i seriously hope yer joking. not everything here has to do with cock size





EDIT: one of my first like, way profound statements here was that i don't believe in homo-, bi-, or heterosexuality. i believe we, as a species, are simply sexual. it's up to you if yer man (or woman) enough to acknowledge it

I just love imaginary friends...

God taught me to be straight but I lost the instructions!

Be nice if our race were actually enlightened enough to engage in the aspects of all those religions that are vaunted so readily but never adhered to by the masses. Aspects of which some use to hide vindication and hatred.

My heart bleeds when I hear of the lack of humanity in some of those that attribute their knowledge to religion.

Should ask your friends if they've ever actually discussed their views with those they seem to know so well.

If it were a choise, than one has to believe that we were all straight at one time or another. I can honestly say that there was never a time in my life that I can remember myself ever being straight.

Thanks, Kasso. Unfortunately, since their problem is stupidity, not ignorance, even if you have the information and the better debate, they will still be stupid. I do the same thing, even though I know it's a losing battle. Hahah, it isn't a fair fight - they don't have the weapons needed for an intelligent discussion... and the intelligent person always loses these arguments. It still won't stop me (and I hope it won't stop you). I always speak out against bigotry, wherever and whenever I see it.