11-18-2006
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#31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nitrofiend Define normal. | In what context? It's NORMAL to masturbate or it's NORMAL to 'encourage' your child to masturbate?
Either way, you'll have to be a little more elaborate if you're hoping to make a point! | | | |
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11-18-2006
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Originally Posted by davidjh7 Societies morals are also involved, but society isn't always right about everything, either. | Collectively, society tends to be correct about almost everything.
I think that 99% of people will agree that the original question & scenario is absolutely fucking disgusting. If I were more vindictive and had a vigilante mentality, I'd call the cops on that guy. | | | |
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11-18-2006
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#34 (permalink)
| | | I think the concern is the fact that people equate sexual acts in RMD's original post.
Anyone who reads the many posts of Ripped, will noticed that his conversation skills are limited to him speaking about his "phallus" and how proud he is of his body and his mastubatory skills.
I don't think he means to insult anyone with the idea that he is encouraging mutual masturbation with his children. He is merely a man who likes to touch himself.
Having said that, I think the children should be taught about masturbation and they need to know the fact that it isn't "Dirty", or "for sickos". However, you can teach your children through words, NOT through having them come into the room and "appreciate daddy's large phallus and his jets of cum."
Quite honestly, the idea really makes me uncomfortable.
Suammary: Teach your children about acceptable masturbation without visual demonstrations.  | | | |
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11-18-2006
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| | | dolfettes post is exactly why womens post on this mens grouip have no idea of men and their testerone or hormones. they think pervert and abuse and have no clue in the least of what goes on in mens minds and young mens minds. stick to knowing young women. society today is in the pitifuly shape it is by women legislating laws about boys mens and their human nature curiosities. just my opinion. | | | |
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11-18-2006
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#36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by UKBBW_Denise In what context? It's NORMAL to masturbate or it's NORMAL to 'encourage' your child to masturbate?
Either way, you'll have to be a little more elaborate if you're hoping to make a point! | My point was supposed to imply the fact that what some think is abnormal or abhorrent, others may not have a problem with for whatever reason. It's unorthodox, but as long as he's not actually in a sexual relationship with his offspring, I don't see anything particularly unhealthy about it. He's probably surprised everyone here is jumping down his throat and crucifying him for something he seems to feel is natural and not so much of a huge taboo.
I bet most of us have seen our fathers or mothers in the nude, I'm sure a large chunk of us have discussed matters of sex with our parents and it's not so much of a stretch for me to see parents encouraging masturbation. My mother once asked me long ago (though implicitly) how my masturbating was going. I replied that I didn't know how to do it. And she replied that when I was ready, I'd know just what to do. We've discussed sexual topics before, and I've come to her asking why certain girlfriends of mine haven't been able to orgasm. I've even discussed swallowing semen, penis size, and other things with my father and he's told me some graphic stories about girls of his, etc.
Yes, it's unorthodox parenting, but I wouldn't trade that openness for anything. I value it greatly. Teenagers have questions. It doesn't mean I want to have sex with my mother or my father, or vice-versa. | | | |
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11-18-2006
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#37 (permalink)
| | | Creep weird and wrong IMO. We have teenage kids, we joke around about masturbation we are a very open and honest family - however there comes a time after say 14 or so, where you shoud just butt out of your kids sexual identity. I know they are equiped with all the knowlege, how they use it is up to them.
I would be seriously concerned if my husband expressed any interest in how often and where my children masturbated.
I do not think Dolfettes post as out of line, and there are more than plently of MEN posting here saying the same thing. | | | |
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11-18-2006
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| | | Im gonna sit my son down when hes like....10 or something and be like : " ok, when i was your age, i started wanking...i dont know if you have or not...but i want you to know, if you ever need some wank material, then just ask and i'll get if for you." | | | |
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11-18-2006
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#39 (permalink)
| | | I just want to add to this that I don't want it to come off like I am being a prude or something. I do not care what grown adults do sexually god knows I am a freak., I just have a thing about kids being molested and put in adult situations. My best friend was molested by his step dad most of his life, there was never penetration just the dad coming in to his room at night and masturbating over him while he thought he was sleeping and weird stuff like that. He never really got over it and got into drugs and overdosed at the age of 21. He had all kinds of sexual hang ups. It just all stemmed back to that. So I am not implying anything unsavory is or was going on in this situation but I just think there has to be a firm line when it comes to adults and kids sexually.. Regardless if its a parent or not there just has to be a line that shouldn't be crossed. The smallest thing that happens when you are young can really effect your the rest of your life. | | | |
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11-18-2006
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Originally Posted by Cypher Im gonna sit my son down when hes like....10 or something and be like : " ok, when i was your age, i started wanking...i dont know if you have or not...but i want you to know, if you ever need some wank material, then just ask and i'll get if for you." | My father actually said that to me almost verbatim, only I was 11. He bought me my first Playboy when I was 12 -- an idea put forth by my mother. Once again it's unorthodox, and maybe even shocking to some, but I don't think it's a big deal and I have no complexes involving sexual relationships with my parents. Hell in some cultures it's a rite of passage for a boy to have a prostitute and lose his virginity upon turning 13. I don't necessarily agree with the age involved as people mature physically at different rates, but I don't think it's a big deal. It's merely a social faux pas here in the states (and mostly a Christian one at that). | | | |
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11-18-2006
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Originally Posted by stefanog65 dolfettes post is exactly why womens post on this mens grouip have no idea of men and their testerone or hormones. they think pervert and abuse and have no clue in the least of what goes on in mens minds and young mens minds. stick to knowing young women. society today is in the pitifuly shape it is by women legislating laws about boys mens and their human nature curiosities. just my opinion. | I wasn't even going to dignify this with a response, but you pissed me off so much that I think I will. This kind of thought is antiquated and absolutely wrong. I'll give you that men and women are different, but more than being male or female, we are all HUMAN. As far as legislation, most laws on the books have been made or are being made by mostly MEN. Men still hold the majority in the house and senate, and it's only been within the last generation that women have come to any political power. Women have as many complex sexual urges as men and are just as sexual and sometimes more. Get your head out of your Victorian era ass and kindly go fuck yourself. Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrofiend My father actually said that to me almost verbatim, only I was 11. He bought me my first Playboy when I was 12 -- an idea put forth by my mother. Once again it's unorthodox, and maybe even shocking to some, but I don't think it's a big deal and I have no complexes involving sexual relationships with my parents. Hell in some cultures it's a rite of passage for a boy to have a prostitute and lose his virginity upon turning 13. I don't necessarily agree with the age involved as people mature physically at different rates, but I don't think it's a big deal. It's merely a social faux pas here in the states (and mostly a Christian one at that). | Somehow I see this as ok. You hand you kid a Playboy and say, "if you have any questions, just ask," and leave it at that. I don't know that I will do this-- sexuality is a journey that I want my son to take in his own time and at his own pace... but I don't have a problem with a parent nonchalantly handing his kid a playboy and letting it go at that. It's the lewd fascination and obsession with sharing your sexuality with your kids and pushing them to share theirs I have a problem with.
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11-18-2006
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| | | Our kids are 8 (boy) and 10 (girl) and we've always been pretty open with them as far as nudity. We used to take 'family baths' until they were about 4 and 6. But my wife still takes showers with them both on occasion so she can help wash hair, etc. She also walks around the house nude or in just a thong when we're all getting ready for the day and the kids are comfortable with it. I've become a little more discrete over the years but have shared a shower with our son on occasion (at swimming pools and such) and I don't hide if they walk in on me.
We're basically trying to let them know that there's no reason to be ashamed of your body and everyone has 'parts' and that's okay. My son has a habit of swinging his little cock in circles and making everyone laugh but that will likely subside as he gets older and more self-concious.
What we absolutely don't do is allow them to see us in a sexual situation. Yes, they know we have fun when the door is closed but they have no concept at that age what it's about or what it means. We won't be putting on any workshops for them either.
What we will do is continue to kiss and hug and cuddle freely and openly so they understand that physical intimacy is a healthy part of a loving relationship. In a few years we'll 'have the talk' and explain in more detail and affirm self-gratification and safe sex. But agian, no workshops!
The family showers will likely end soon but my wife and I will never hide ourselves when nude. We'll just be casual and open as we've always been.
And never flaunt it.
My wife and I have other sexual issues that have been expressed in another thread but that is carried on exclusively when the kids are out of the house. Our ultimate goal is that they are better adjusted than we were when they enter adulthood. | | | |
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11-19-2006
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Originally Posted by pseudocognomen Our kids are 8 (boy) and 10 (girl) and we've always been pretty open with them as far as nudity. We used to take 'family baths' until they were about 4 and 6. But my wife still takes showers with them both on occasion so she can help wash hair, etc. She also walks around the house nude or in just a thong when we're all getting ready for the day and the kids are comfortable with it. I've become a little more discrete over the years but have shared a shower with our son on occasion (at swimming pools and such) and I don't hide if they walk in on me. | This is all very cool. I have a habit of walking around naked and so far the baby doesn't seem to mind or even notice, really. I've actually been wondering lately when the time is to be a little more discreet. I also bathe with my son-- I have since he was born. It's just been easier than trying to wrestle him into the little baby tub and wash him without getting soaking wet. In our culture nudity equals sexuality but I just don't see it that way. Quote: |
We're basically trying to let them know that there's no reason to be ashamed of your body and everyone has 'parts' and that's okay. My son has a habit of swinging his little cock in circles and making everyone laugh but that will likely subside as he gets older and more self-concious.
| That's really funny (the cock swinging). My mom and grandmother get apoplectic when my son plays with his little baby junk when he gets his diaper changed, but I see no harm in it. Usually I hand him a wipe and he cleans himself off with it, which is less work for me. Quote: |
What we absolutely don't do is allow them to see us in a sexual situation. Yes, they know we have fun when the door is closed but they have no concept at that age what it's about or what it means. We won't be putting on any workshops for them either.
| This is exactly where the line is for me as well. I think you've stated rather eloquently how responsible and levelheaded you and your wife are. Quote: |
What we will do is continue to kiss and hug and cuddle freely and openly so they understand that physical intimacy is a healthy part of a loving relationship.
| This is wonderful. My husband and I are really affectionate and I see no reason to change this as my son gets older. I hope to teach him that affection is soothing and comforting. My parents were not very affectionate even to us kids, and it's taken me years to be okay with physical affection. Actually, at this point, if my husband and I are cuddling on the couch or whatever, we pop the baby in the middle of us and play with him and love him. We also co-sleep and have since the beginning, which has been really nice. We're trying to transition him into his own bed, but I almost think we miss him more than he misses us. This, of course, has meant that we've had to find very creative places in the house to have sex since the baby sleeps in our room. Quote: |
In a few years we'll 'have the talk' and explain in more detail and affirm self-gratification and safe sex. But agian, no workshops!
| I think skipping "Clitoris 101 taught by Mom and Dad" is a good idea. Quote:
The family showers will likely end soon but my wife and I will never hide ourselves when nude. We'll just be casual and open as we've always been.
And never flaunt it.
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My wife and I have other sexual issues that have been expressed in another thread but that is carried on exclusively when the kids are out of the house. Our ultimate goal is that they are better adjusted than we were when they enter adulthood. | Isn't that every good parent's goal, really? It seems like the big hope we have for all of our kids.
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11-19-2006
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#44 (permalink)
| | | Plain and simple it's totally inappropriate no excuses! I don't know of any
thing that would make that behavior okay for you to do with your kids.  Ciao,
"cigarbabe & Mr. Ed in Mass. | | | |
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11-19-2006
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Originally Posted by rippedmuscledad Wondering if any other dad's jackoff alot daily and encourage their son, son's, to do the same? Being a nudist dad....I do it several times a day and my son's both know that it's a good thing to do. I tell them it's natural and very necessary... and healthy to. | What are you joking?
We are also nudist's, and I don't know of one place that would encourage a parent to indulge in that kind of behavior.Nudism is not synonamous
with sexuality. In fact overt or otherwise sexual acts are verboten at nudist resorts, because most of them are family places.
Dude, that crosses the line. Seriously!!!
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