The Middle Class Needs to Strike Back

It's a delusion. If they really cared about the poor, welfare would have been set up as a job training/education program to help them get off of poverty and a better life. Plus, the dems in congress tend to be very wealthy themselves and do nothing to stop the trust fund shelters where they have their own money stored. If you think they care, why haven't they fixed social security? Why did the government start spending it the second year it existed and with FDR's approval? Social security is a bunch of pieces of paper you could print off of your computer. It's not real and doesn't exist. It's all been spent. My own pension was taken from me and I was forced into social security to help keep it afloat a little while longer. The civil service pension is gone, and so is the railroad pension.

It's all relative.

Both the Dems and the Repubs fuck the poor. The Dems at least leave a couple of twenties on the dresser when they leave.

You probably don't want to put a lot of faith in revolt of the middle class. As those of you who are somewhat out of your teens may recall, the middle class has struck back several times in the last few decades - unfortunately, electing people some of you really don't like.

'nuff said! Well put, Shelby!!

Sassy reply Rob! ha Well its true! HEll yeah, tell it like it is!

I left out the e. Don't kill me.

Why do Middle Class need to strike back?

What is middle class?

Is it a person who makes $40k or $120K? That is the major sticking point for me. We all know what difference $80k makes.

What are the values of a "middle class" person in Iowa vs. New York?

Why should a person be penalized for succeeding? Why can't people succeed?

How was life better in the 90's (Clinton) vs. know (Bush)?? Take out the technology "boom" which neither party could/know the direction it would take.

I reason that the middle class should 'fight back' is that globalization is a driect attack on their way of life. Globalization allow large corporations to move jobs to which ever country will provide the lowest bid. Since other countries have weaker labour laws and human rights laws, there is absolutely no way western countries (which includes but is not limited to the U.S.) can compete. As a result, most manufacturing jobs are moving over seas to third world countries. This is eliminating the middle class. Add to this, illegal immigration to the U.S., which allows smaller American companies to set up their own 'third world' work force locally and one can see why the middle class should be concerned.

There are a few other issues as well like Bush et al. blowing money which should be going to our health care, education, you name it, on his military mis-adventures.

It's the term "middle class" I find disturbing. I guess I think of it in a rather more mundane sense than a social one.

Je ne veut pas etre un membre de la bourgeoisie...

1. Why? Because millions of middle class americans are loosing their homes, jobs, posessions, health etc and all in sake of corporate greed.

2. Middle class is around $30K to 60K a year generally. Overall Middle class living is "Paying the basic bills, with just a little bit to spare."

3. Iowa VS NY.... I would imagine, Iowa is traditional values, rather than NY may be a bit more tight, as cost of living is much higher in NY than Iowa.

4. People can succeed, but not at the expense of others.
Succeeding at a job is creating that project that nobody else could, or inventing something new that helps everyone, or getting your company on its feet to create jobs, services and products.
Succeeding to put people out of work, reposess homes, ruin peoples lives to line pockets is very different - its corruption.

5. Clinton Vs. Bush. Simply put, Clinton got the world involved more.
As hard as it is for republicans to realize...the world is round...and that it doesn't rotate around them... there ARE other countries that affect what goes on here.
People were more Happy. There were JOBS. The economy may not have been great, but PEOPLE WERE EMPLOYED.
They were ACTIVE IN COMMUNITIES HERE AT HOME.
Yes, there were some flaws, as to be expected with any administration....
But the current administration has taken the greed and corruption to a whole new level.

The people of the United States need to tell these croonies that were Tired, and were not going to take it anymore.
The only way to Save the Poor and the Middle Class, and to turn this country around is to Fight back.

You believe in a dream that will never surface.

How can people or business succeed if they do not "at the expense of others"?

What about all the local restaurants, shoe stores, general stores, etc. that were put out of business during the 40's thru 70's. It has been human evolutionary craving for efficiency that has promote demise of jobs through history.

Is it mine or your fault if people are being foreclosed and bankrupt. Should we not be an opportunistic buyers or teachers (examples to friends and family). Home ownership is at all time high the last few years. Yet, people are going to lose houses during this housing slow down(arm's).

About health care increases....that is dynamic on to itself. If Rep. had their way they would place a national cap on malpractice lawsuits. I really do not have any other response to health care. Just do not come back w/ a "nation health care system" We already have one and look at the RED & RED.

The tech. boom created more jobs then any other industry in the last 50 yrs. So, yes there was a lot of jobs around. Not the Dem. or Rep. doing in the least bit.

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. If that wasn't for big business then I not sure what was or is. Think on how many jobs (well-paying) have been lost since. The economy of the 90's was one of the greatest of all times. Minor blimp for 91' then watch out until 2000'

Stock market is Bull for 5th year. Taxes are down. Jobs have rebounded from cutbacks in 2000 & 2001 (not Auto in Mich.). Home ownership. People are more educated about investing (not just for the rich).

I just think people that have ideas need the balls to go through the conceptual phase and just do it. But, we all know that most people will and/or can not think past that stage.

They love to day dream, hence Democrats!

Regardless of which party is "in office", taxes for the "middle working-class" are ridiculous and are only getting worse!! I am a small business owner, have been in business since Jan '06, have paid OUT MY ASS for gasoline (taxed to beat hell) to run my service trucks, pay UNHOLY AMOUNTS of federal "940" and "941" taxes, along with State and Unemployment taxes. These taxes add up to nearly as much as I bring in per month!! Add to that, the $4 Million liability insurance I MUST carry to perform work on government property (not that often, but a requirement when I do). There is NO FRIGGIN' WAY IN HELL I WILL EVER BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT GIVES A DAMN about the common man and/or small business. After all the BS I went through to open this business with the government and local business offices, it is very painfully evident "big-box" companies are the only thing the government is interested in. Just TRY and get a phone call returned, an e-mail answered, a letter replied to. But, by God if you're talkin' taxes, their ears prick up and they'll talk $$ all day long!! Not that they care to help you succeed in your business.......
Oh yeah, and as for health care - DREAM ON!!! No way my small biz will ever afford it!!!