This was what I was hoping for, partly. Yes you both are right, the abortion debate rests on whether or not you define it as Murder. The argument put forth in the link makes a case for it not being murder because a fetus is not a viablke living entity in and of itself, it is parasitic and depends on the mother. To quote from them: "Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not a human being -- it is a potential human being, i.e. it is part of the woman. The concept murder only applies to the initiation of physical force used to destroy an actual human being... Rights only apply to human beings, and not to human tissue."
Simply stating that a fetus is a human being with no arguments for that position does not solve anything, you are not answering the argument, only avoiding it, and ignoring it. Why is a fetus a human being? Why does it have the right to impose its will on the body of the woman regardless of her desires? The fetus is dependant on the mother, it needs her to survive, but it does not have a right to survive, its nature dictates that survival is not a guarantee, why is a woman forced to give it that guarantee? If and when a fetus develops to the point that it can survive outside of the womb then it is a human being and attains a right to its life.
"A new born child, unlike a fetus, is a physically separate entity. A child is an actual human being, with a capability to reason, and thus a child has the same right to life as any adult. However, the application of this right differs in practice from that of an adult, as a child's conceptual faculty is not fully developed. That is why a six year old does not have the right to choose to enter into a sexual relationship -- and an adult does."
"If a parent gives birth to a child -- and claims to be its guardian -- then the parent is responsible for taking care of the child, unless the parent turns the child over to someone else (for adoption)." Only if the mother makes a conscious choice to be the infants gaurdian is she then obligated to ensure its survival.