04-25-2008
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| | | Good info Bbucko, thanks. I hope alot of people read this. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bbucko OK.
First regarding some myths and half-truths about HIV that I've seen here: Tops get infected, though not at the same rates as bottoms. The average incubation period for HIV is six weeks, though some people will seroconvert in fewer than four and others will take as long as eight. Unless one's immune system has been destroyed by chemotherapy or long-term IV drug use, everyone will test positive following infection within thirteen weeks. Everyone's immune system reacts differently to infection with HIV. Some people suffer terribly while seroconverting, others feel no effects whatsoever. I cannot remember any bout of illness that I can reliably state marked my seroconversion, but it happened so long ago that I would probably have forgotten it anyway. Once infected, everyone responds differently. Some people get very sick very quickly, and , depending on the quality of their care and their own body's ability to fight off the virus, might never recover. They are called Rapid Progressors.
Others will remain healthy for years and, never having shown signs of seroconversion, would have no way of knowing that they carry the virus without getting tested. Depending on when I was infected, I could have been carrying the virus for as long as fifteen or twenty years before my first bout of opportunistic infections, getting tested and beginning treatment. I am a Long-Term Slow Progressor.
There is a tiny minority who have lived with the virus without ever getting sick at all. No one knows why. They are called Long-Term Non-Progressors. Infection Scenarios:
1) World-wide, the most common mode of transmission for HIV is unprotected vaginal sex.
2) In Western Europe, The US, Canada, and Australia, the most common mode of transmission is unprotected anal sex between men.
3) The sharing of hypodermic syringes and needles has been, historically, how HIV has been passed into the heterosexual community in Western Europe, The US, Canada and Australia; However, once infected, women and men can and do pass HIV through unprotected vaginal sex.
4) Cuts, abrasions, etc are poor transmission nodes. The areas of the body that facilitate transmission are special cells in the mucous membranes lining the rectum, the vagina, the urethra and the inside of the foreskin.
5) The presence of saliva, which is highly acidic and toxic to HIV, precludes almost any oral sex scenario from consideration. This is highly controversial right now, as anecdotally some men insist that they were infected by giving blowjobs. But this is contradicted by science.
6) The risks of transmission from mother to child during childbirth, while they are troubling to an HIV+ mother, are outside this area of discussion.
Relevant to this topic:
John Holmes might have been infected through the unprotected anal sex he had with men during the filming of The Private Pleasures, though it's no less likely that he was infected engaging in unprotected anal and/or vaginal sex with his countless female partners at the same time.
We will simply never know.
What we do know now (and have known for over twenty years) is that using a condom during vaginal and/or anal sex is the surest way to prevent HIV infection, barring celibacy or strict monogamy between two uninfected individuals. | | | | |
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04-25-2008
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#62 (permalink)
| | Banned | He was not a good looking man. | | | |
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04-25-2008
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| | | Here are box covers for a couple of film re-releases on DVD with Holmes that are currently available. "Black Velvet" is still worth a watch today, even with the poor production values. Not because of Holmes (I personally think he's kinda nasty looking), but because of the short with "Big Bill" and John Traynor (a playgirl model of the day). Both are built and Big Bill is seriously long and thick.
Somebody asked about Peter North's gay work and I remember having seen a ton of these - he was really productive in that genre for a while, but I can't find titles at the rent-by-mail co. I do biz with. If you go to Welcome to Falcon Entertainment and search for Matt Ramsey (Ramsay?) you will probably find a lot of them including the one someone mentioned with Rick Donovan (and I'm pretty sure it wasn't simulated fucking as someone suggested earlier) - I think the title is "A Matter of Size." It's interesting that in all the gay movies I've seen with Mr. North he will let himself get blown by a guy, fuck a guy, and get fucked by a guy, but he never gives head to a guy and IIRC, never even touches another guy's dick. I've always regarded getting fucked as a lot more gay than giving head, and for sure more gay than handling another guy's dick, but Peter didn't ask my opinion.
Anyway, more power to him as he has (1) stayed alive in a business where a lot of people die early, and (2) made a successful and VERY long career out of getting laid. Ladies and gentlemen, THAT is talent. | | | |
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04-25-2008
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| | | Thanks for the research dude. I too would have liked to have had a round with him. Ugly as sin, but who would be looking at his face. My only hope is that those genes didn't die with him. | | | |
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04-25-2008
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Originally Posted by thirteenbyseven Sometimes you have to be careful with those anecdotal stories. We were at a nudist resort once when this guy starts to talk about meeting up with the legendary porn king at an airport in Daytona, Florida. He had cool dude sunglasses because he didn't want anyone to recognize him and a big 'ol ten gallon hat to add to the incognito disguise. But what got to this guy was all these race car people who met John Holmes. He had no idea John Holmes was so much into racing.
It was NASCAR driver Richard Petty.  | Another intriguing story! Quote: |
Originally Posted by bigboy9239 I heard he actually got rock hard when he screws the guy.....in cointrast to his normal semi hard state. Still even semi hard..he was huge! | From what I've seen, I find that too hard to believe. If you check out the second rare video in the first post of this thread, Holmes dick becomes very "smushy" when he's penetrating that guy. Now I know sometimes his dick can be like this with women, but man it's just extra squishy in that vid and Holmes just looks extremely uncomfortable with the whole thing. An interesting fact I came across recently that I would like to point out is that in the Private Pleasures, there is actually a disquised woman that's next to the sultan's throne. When Joey Yale is blowing Holmes, you can see this woman sucking on Holmes' fingers and doing whatever she can to arrouse him during the scene and for like the whole time, Holmes is just looking and smiling at that girl instead of paying any attention to Joey. I believe an IMDB review for this movie specifies who the woman is. Quote: |
Originally Posted by boynextdoorpt He was not a good looking man. | I've posted my thoughts on his looks before. I think in some films he can be a pretty good looking guy, but in others he is pretty ugly. I always thought he looked pretty good in Tell Them Johnny Wadd Is Here and Liquid Lips, but maybe it's because I'm a sucker for afros :P . Quote: |
Originally Posted by visualalert Here are box covers for a couple of film re-releases on DVD with Holmes that are currently available. "Black Velvet" is still worth a watch today, even with the poor production values. Not because of Holmes (I personally think he's kinda nasty looking), but because of the short with "Big Bill" and John Traynor (a playgirl model of the day). Both are built and Big Bill is seriously long and thick. | Thanks for posting! I already had the cover for Black Velvet that you posted, but I didn't really know what it was all about. I also have a clip of Holmes masturbating that's shown on the back cover, which is available on The Erotic Museum; I think someone already posted that early in this thread though. I wasn't aware of that Pool Party / Biggest of Them All DVD he was in though! | | | |
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04-26-2008
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| | | Back on the size issue, I've also read supposedly 'informed sources' claiming that Big John was closer to 9.5 inches than some of the more exotic claims.
It's interesting that the solo j/o clip shown at the Erotic Museum shows a cock that's barely 2 hand-widths long, the average hand-width being generally accepted as being 4 inches. So, to be 12 inches long his cock would need to be at least 3 hands long.
The actual stats take nothing away from the visual impact of John. I still remember the first time I saw a John Holmes vid as an impressionable teen. I thank him for my continued interest in the subject;-)
cheers
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04-26-2008
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| | | I think generally speaking, John Holmes was probably around 8-9.5 inches in his usual semi-erect state and that jack off clip you mentioned truly didn't show how large he can be. John's vids can be really suprising; sometimes he looks like a low 8 inches and other times it just jumps out at you like a 12 inch ruler. Here's a good clip that really jumps out at you!
I have this web page saved onto my hard drive that conducts a study using the infamous clip of Holmes and Ginger Lynn online that shows how John was 10 inches at the least in that scene, which he didn't even look that big in. Unfortunately I can't quite find the actual URL to this and one of the URLs I tried doesn't seem to work, so if I can't find it, I'll rehost it. | | | |
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04-29-2008
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Originally Posted by John Estes John's vids can be really surprising; sometimes he looks like a low 8 inches and other times it just jumps out at you like a 12 inch ruler. Here's a good clip that really jumps out at you! | (Jeez, I feel a bit embarrassed responding.)
Well, John, near the beginning, it seems to me that his unit hangs roughly two-thirds of the way to his knee.
Now, if the middle of his knee is about 12 inches from his groin, that would give him eight or perhaps nine inches. Not more, in that clip.
Certainly not 12 inches.
Didn't one of Holmes' early girlfriends claim he told her that he had measured it at 10 inches? (Think I read that in Rolling Stone one time.)
No need to add a full two inches to that figure.
That said, he did have a gift. | | | |
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04-29-2008
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Originally Posted by senor rubirosa (Jeez, I feel a bit embarrassed responding.)
Well, John, near the beginning, it seems to me that his unit hangs roughly two-thirds of the way to his knee.
Now, if the middle of his knee is about 12 inches from his groin, that would give him eight or perhaps nine inches. Not more, in that clip.
Certainly not 12 inches.
Didn't one of Holmes' early girlfriends claim he told her that he had measured it at 10 inches? (Think I read that in Rolling Stone one time.)
No need to add a full two inches to that figure.
That said, he did have a gift. | I doubt he was 12 inches in the beginning of that clip too, but I think that's a good clip to show how huge it can look. Another thing to keep in mind is if you're measuring the curve of his penis as well in that clip, then it would add a little extra length. I really need to reupload this site I have that does a size expirement showing him to be at least 10 inches.
Holmes' first wife Sharon was the one who said he claimed to be 10 inches when she found him measuring himself in a bathroom, but there are all sorts of size claims out there. Bill Amerson, John's close friend and agent, said he was a little over 13 inches, but I don't buy that myself. John himself also claimed to be "the size of two and a half six inch rulers", but that's just ridiculous :P . | | | |
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