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It has been pointed out to me via PM that I originally promised to put up the 10-minute full versions of both movies at Megaupload as well, for those poor souls who are unable to

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Old 09-24-2006   #16 (permalink)
alex8 is offline

It has been pointed out to me via PM that I originally promised to put up the 10-minute full versions of both movies at Megaupload as well, for those poor souls who are unable to use Rapidshare due to the cruddiness of their internet service providers.

A little late, but here are the links to the identical footage from above, only hosted at Megaupload:

FILM 1

FILM 2
 
Old 09-24-2006   #17 (permalink)
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Old 09-25-2006   #18 (permalink)
dramonmaster222 is offline

These are truly some amazing finds. Great work!
 
Old 09-27-2006   #19 (permalink)
luvnlg is offline

Perhaps there should be a whole section dedicated to Alex's amazing finds. I always enjoy your insights.
 
Old 09-27-2006   #20 (permalink)
dexman is offline

Very cool and fascinating stuff from the porn archives.

And as b3ar pointed out, the great Peter North did some gay vids (at least a dozen) in his past too, under the name of Matt Ramsey. His, compared to Holmes', were MUCH better, partly because they were more recent and were able to be made with much better production quality (on film). Plus, North seemed to be a much more lively and active participant in the sex (though he professes not to be gay or even bi), as opposed to Holmes' obvious "detachment" of later years. And, of course, there was North's/Ramsey's historic cumshots.

What's interesting about these guys (and others) is that they (people in the industry) claim that the easiest way to break into straight porn for guys is by being "gay for pay". Not to mention that the money is supposedly MUCH better.

Kuddos, Alex, for your hard work in unearthing all this stuff.
 
Old 09-27-2006   #21 (permalink)
hot-rod is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by arktrucker
I don't care how big it was. I always, from the first time I saw it at an arcade where you pulled the curtain and dropped a quarter and peeked out of the crack to cruise, thought it was the sexiest cock I had ever seen. I have on occasion seen a couple like it and a few larger. But it's still the sexiest one I've seen. It's too bad he was just so butt ugly!! I guess it's true what you don't have in looks you make up somewhere else.

Years ago I met a hustler that favored him.. skinny the same eyes and curly hair.. and damned if he didn't have the same dick. Big ol' uncut thiing. We measured it and it was dead on 11" soft and about 12.75 erect. The funny thing about this guy is he had pea size balls. I mean normal size scrotum but little bitty peas inside.
Yeah boy...I sucked off a guy just like that at a rest area north of Huntsville TX called New Waverley on I45.This guys peter was real long and skinny and boy was he always full of cum. I hooked up with him several times out there then back in the 70's and 80's when it wasn't so dangerous. But the so called conservatives put a ban on humans ever having sex again. They are still that way.
 
Old 09-27-2006   #22 (permalink)
senor rubirosa is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by mephistopheles
His wife said he was something like 10.75".

At the start, Holmes was widely publicized as having a penis ranging from 13.5 inches to 15 inches, depending on which ad copy a particular adult film distributor chose to use. In reality, according to those who performed with him on screen, Holmes' actual maximum length when erect was 12.5 inches. It has been noted by several porn historians that the advertising of Holmes' endowment finally settled on 12.5 inches.
Holmes himself is quoted somewhere as saying his flaccid dick was 6 inches long, and his erection, 10 inches long. I find that about right ... or even generous, in most views I've seen of him. Certainly less than 12.5 inches, which would be down to the kneecap.
But huge, in any case.
 
Old 09-27-2006   #23 (permalink)
hot-rod is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by alex8
Nope, that was over a decade later, when he appeared together with celebrated porn bottom Joey Yale in the feature-length The Private Pleasures of John Holmes (1982):

http://www.gaymoviefinder.com/25378-...hn+Holmes.aspx
Heah, I have this movie or at least one with the turban act in it.
 
Old 07-06-2007   #24 (permalink)
jcjb2002 is offline

I would appreciate the videos to the older flicks.. the links show them as outdated.. sorry I am just cruising old posts and came across one of my fav guys..
 
Old 07-06-2007   #25 (permalink)
alex8 is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcjb2002 View Post
I would appreciate the videos to the older flicks.. the links show them as outdated.. sorry I am just cruising old posts and came across one of my fav guys..
To my amazement, both the Megaupload links in post #16 of this thread do still work all these months on.
 
Old 07-06-2007   #26 (permalink)
StumpyMTL is offline

Holmes with a mustache...

XTube Videos
 
Old 07-06-2007   #27 (permalink)
BigBen is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by mephistopheles View Post
His wife said he was something like 10.75".

At the start, Holmes was widely publicized as having a penis ranging from 13.5 inches to 15 inches, depending on which ad copy a particular adult film distributor chose to use. In reality, according to those who performed with him on screen, Holmes' actual maximum length when erect was 12.5 inches. It has been noted by several porn historians that the advertising of Holmes' endowment finally settled on 12.5 inches for two reasons:

# Holmes, who was 6'2" tall, started his career doing 8mm "porn loops" with female performers who were, on the average, no taller than 5', and were of extremely slender build. However, due to clever camera angles, most of these short women appeared to be ~5'7" tall, which based on scaling made Holmes appear as if he were actually between 13 and 15". His length — as well as his 7.5" circumference at the base, and 8" at the head when fully erect — by most accounts resulted in quite a few porn actresses refusing to work with him, with "self-preservation" being the primary justification. Holmes was viewed by most porn actresses as being a "real gentleman", even when obviously intoxicated on heroin. However, after one reported instance where a 4'9" performer suffered internal hemorrhaging after losing her balance and receiving Holmes' penis far harder and further than expected. Word spread through the industry that if a film starring Holmes made a casting call, shorter women need not apply.
# In 1978, several companies were licensed to produce a dildo that was cast from Holmes' erect penis. While this allowed people to experience Holmes' manhood firsthand, the dildo was only 12.5" long. After the dildo was released, according to those working in the porn industry in California at the time, if the dildo size was accurate, then the descriptions of Holmes' being longer than 12.5" were clearly a case of false advertising, and depending on which measurement was correct, someone could easily get sued. Shortly afterwards, Holmes was officially listed as being only 12.5" long, where he stayed at for the remainder of his life and career.

-AllExperts

This link has photos that compared his weigh and the size of the girl and all this other stuff to determine his size.
Here

And look at the pictures along the side, its not hard to see how people could think of him as being bigger than 10 inches or so.

But sadly enough, John Holmes died of AIDs on March 13, 1988.



Quote:
Originally Posted by arktrucker View Post
I don't care how big it was. I always, from the first time I saw it at an arcade where you pulled the curtain and dropped a quarter and peeked out of the crack to cruise, thought it was the sexiest cock I had ever seen. I have on occasion seen a couple like it and a few larger. But it's still the sexiest one I've seen. It's too bad he was just so butt ugly!! I guess it's true what you don't have in looks you make up somewhere else.

Years ago I met a hustler that favored him.. skinny the same eyes and curly hair.. and damned if he didn't have the same dick. Big ol' uncut thiing. We measured it and it was dead on 11" soft and about 12.75 erect. The funny thing about this guy is he had pea size balls. I mean normal size scrotum but little bitty peas inside.

Mephistopheles comments and Arktruckers experience with someone similar to Holmes and then measuring them to determine their size
measuring is correct. I met Holmes years ago before he got to be a "household name". I was naive and had no idea who he was at the time. I saw him fully hard a few feet away. I am guessing this was long before, at least a few years, before he got in to the hardcore drugs because he was able to get what fully hard and erect. I understand that he could not do that years later in his "career" and actually then strugged to get semi hard and 10" or so. But he could the day I saw him. Could be several reasons why he could, he was not a happy camper the time I met him, but he had a hardon and a woman was playing with him, and he was sticking out in front fully hard without any assistance holding himself. The 12.5" - 12.75" length that Mephistopheles and ArkTrucker contend was right from what I saw and heard said when I met him.
 
Old 07-06-2007   #28 (permalink)
BigBen is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by mephistopheles View Post
His wife said he was something like 10.75".

At the start, Holmes was widely publicized as having a penis ranging from 13.5 inches to 15 inches, depending on which ad copy a particular adult film distributor chose to use. In reality, according to those who performed with him on screen, Holmes' actual maximum length when erect was 12.5 inches. It has been noted by several porn historians that the advertising of Holmes' endowment finally settled on 12.5 inches for two reasons:

# Holmes, who was 6'2" tall, started his career doing 8mm "porn loops" with female performers who were, on the average, no taller than 5', and were of extremely slender build. However, due to clever camera angles, most of these short women appeared to be ~5'7" tall, which based on scaling made Holmes appear as if he were actually between 13 and 15". His length — as well as his 7.5" circumference at the base, and 8" at the head when fully erect — by most accounts resulted in quite a few porn actresses refusing to work with him, with "self-preservation" being the primary justification. Holmes was viewed by most porn actresses as being a "real gentleman", even when obviously intoxicated on heroin. However, after one reported instance where a 4'9" performer suffered internal hemorrhaging after losing her balance and receiving Holmes' penis far harder and further than expected. Word spread through the industry that if a film starring Holmes made a casting call, shorter women need not apply.
# In 1978, several companies were licensed to produce a dildo that was cast from Holmes' erect penis. While this allowed people to experience Holmes' manhood firsthand, the dildo was only 12.5" long. After the dildo was released, according to those working in the porn industry in California at the time, if the dildo size was accurate, then the descriptions of Holmes' being longer than 12.5" were clearly a case of false advertising, and depending on which measurement was correct, someone could easily get sued. Shortly afterwards, Holmes was officially listed as being only 12.5" long, where he stayed at for the remainder of his life and career.

-AllExperts

This link has photos that compared his weigh and the size of the girl and all this other stuff to determine his size.
Here

And look at the pictures along the side, its not hard to see how people could think of him as being bigger than 10 inches or so.

But sadly enough, John Holmes died of AIDs on March 13, 1988.



Quote:
Originally Posted by arktrucker View Post
I don't care how big it was. I always, from the first time I saw it at an arcade where you pulled the curtain and dropped a quarter and peeked out of the crack to cruise, thought it was the sexiest cock I had ever seen. I have on occasion seen a couple like it and a few larger. But it's still the sexiest one I've seen. It's too bad he was just so butt ugly!! I guess it's true what you don't have in looks you make up somewhere else.

Years ago I met a hustler that favored him.. skinny the same eyes and curly hair.. and damned if he didn't have the same dick. Big ol' uncut thiing. We measured it and it was dead on 11" soft and about 12.75 erect. The funny thing about this guy is he had pea size balls. I mean normal size scrotum but little bitty peas inside.

Mephistopheles comments and Arktruckers experience with someone similar to Holmes and then measuring them to determine their size
measuring is correct. I met Holmes years ago before he got to be a "household name". I was naive and had no idea who he was at the time. I saw him fully hard a few feet away. I am guessing this was long before, at least a few years, before he got in to the hardcore drugs because he was able to get what fully hard and erect. I understand that he could not do that years later in his "career" and actually then strugged to get semi hard and 10" or so. But he could the day I saw him. Could be several reasons why he could, he was not a happy camper the time I met him, but he had a hardon and a woman was playing with him, and he was sticking out in front fully hard without any assistance holding himself. The 12.5" - 12.75" length that Mephistopheles and ArkTrucker contend was right from what I saw and heard said when I met him.
 
Old 07-06-2007   #29 (permalink)
cklover is offline

I was a very horny teenager...I remember being 16 and passing for 18 and seeing some awful str8 porn of that time...no total nudity, simulated sex, etc. Then, one night at the x-rated porno theatre in Portland, Maine...a preview was run. It was John, naked in all his erect glory, being sucked by some coarse-looking blonde woman...I nearly fell out of my seat! She sucked him off, and proved it my letting his load show and drool as she licked it all up. From that time on, only hardcore movies were played there. Late 60's was the turning point. I still remember my shocked delight. Of course, I saw all of his str8 movies thereafter. I don't think he was creepy looking either. I saw a few pics from his gay stuff, big cock fucking male ass, but wasn't interested. I loved his interaction with women, and their apparent enthusiasm with him. (also, I've met 1 man as hung as John, I tried all the oral moves that 1st woman I saw do on him, but couldn't get him off. He told me that the only way he could ever get off was to fuck. Since I've never been into that, we were done. Also since then, I've really loved blowjob vids seeing a woman or man who could actually get an extremely big cock off orally!)
 
Old 07-08-2007   #30 (permalink)
dufus is offline

I couldn't get the movies to play, so I hope I am not repeating something. There is a preview clip of Holmes stroking his tool at

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