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Originally posted by Dr Rock+Sep 17 2005, 08:03 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock @ Sep 17 2005, 08:03 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Michael18m@Sep 17 2005, 06:29 PM
Thats simplistic rubbish, I believe in all aspects to do with such things as the Virgin, the Saints and the after world etc, what I do disagree with is some of the stuff which is modern and in relation to certain issues handed down by the Vactican which is policy that can change, not dogma |
then don't associate yourself with a political body whose policies you don't agree with! that's not an issue of simplicity vs complexity; it's just basic common sense.
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| If everyone had the idea just to walk away from everything then what sort of world would we live in ? |
a far more agreeable and far less annoying one.
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I don't associate myself with the politics of the church at all if I as an individual take a stand and say they are wrong. you see the problem lies in this simple fact, it is they in their policy who is anti catholic, its not that I'm getting it wrong.
Catholism teachs to hate the sin but to love the sinner, now they by doing this are anti catholic because if a priest is celabate, how can he sin ?
his sexual preference if he wasn't a Priest isn't a issue, after all they ask Gay men not to have sex now and its okay, so its they who are making an arse of themselves and to an extent non Catholics who do not realise what they are telling them is not the teachings of the Church but the opinion of certain people in Rome.
So your point to walk away is wrong, I will continue to tell them they are not following the teachings the say they guard.
If normal working class Catholics don't, thats how you get a Church that will never evolve.
I also don't need a lesson in politics, I come from a family that isn't right wing in the American or European sense, unlike here, you can be left wing and a Catholic.
Also if everyone walks away you get a New Orleans, people can never take enough responsability for good or for helping others, instead of leaving them to die or feel removed from society.