Anyone been involved in DPing a woman?

The dominant/submissive role in ancient cultures was I suspect ubiquitous. The alpha males generally being assertive in politics as well as sex. So while much sexual activity went on in ancient Rome, there were draconian legal sanctions against homosexuality; which means a lot of it was going on otherise the law makers would have paid no heed to it. Interestingly the rape of women in Roman civil society was only a matter of civil law.

Some women could make a feminist argument that dp and dvp, or whatever you choose to call it, is a humiliation of women. I think two str8 men having dp with a woman would think of it more as male bonding than as a flirtation with bisexuality. Or jut as hot crazy sex. I have to say I find it thrilling in that context.

We all approach sex in different ways. I would guess gay guys are more constrained in their daily lives. Without muddying the water I ask myself would I dp a woman with a guy that was openly bi, to be honest got to say it would not bother me. Like the character in Moby Dick who refuses to share a bed with a shipmate: one of the characters tells him, "Better to share a bed with a heathen than a drunken Christian".

The topic and its ramifications is interesting. I can see why nathan has issues with the dp thing.

The dominant/submissive role in ancient cultures was I suspect ubiquitous. The alpha males generally being assertive in politics as well as sex. So while much sexual activity went on in ancient Rome, there were draconian legal sanctions against homosexuality; which means a lot of it was going on otherise the law makers would have paid no heed to it. Interestingly the rape of women in Roman civil society was only a matter of civil law.

Some women could make a feminist argument that dp and dvp, or whatever you choose to call it, is a humiliation of women. I think two str8 men having dp with a woman would think of it more as male bonding than as a flirtation with bisexuality. Or jut as hot crazy sex. I have to say I find it thrilling in that context.

We all approach sex in different ways. I would guess gay guys are more constrained in their daily lives. Without muddying the water I ask myself would I dp a woman with a guy that was openly bi, to be honest got to say it would not bother me. Like the character in Moby Dick who refuses to share a bed with a shipmate: one of the characters tells him, "Better to share a bed with a heathen than a drunken Christian".

The topic and its ramifications is interesting. I can see why nathan has issues with the dp thing.

Thanks, Honey. If I understood the whole explanation correctly, that for your husband, the contact with another man during a sexual act is irrelevant, as long as it doesn't subvert his context for the experience (it being focused on the woman). Would it matter to your husband if the other man's perception was focused more on the male/male portion of the act, if this didn't intrude on his experience?

I'm not trying to press the issue to be obnoxious, and obviously your husband's opinions/feelings cannot be assumed to represent the majority (although it might), I'm just trying to get a better handle on the factors involved, in part because of objective curiosity, but also because of a subjective interest (if I have a broader understanding of the situation, I may be able to act out of an increased sensitivity to other people involved in a particular experience).

Heh, did you know that I'm a bodyworker when you asked this question? Anyway, in my opinion, the genders and sexual orientations of both the therapist and the client are irrelevant, as a professional treatment is not a sexual exchange. To elaborate, here is a quotation from an email to a client's concern that a massage might involve an energetic exchange that, while beneficial to him, would be draining experience for me.

Sorry if that was over-long...

Anyway, I've had many client, both male and female, heterosexual and homosexual both, and I suppose that if the client were viewing the treatment as a sexual experience, then my gender/orientation might have an impact on them, but I don't think that it is common. I'm a healthcare provider, and our relationship is therapeutic, not personal. Just lie, when I get my teeth cleaned at the the dentist's office, it doesn't matter if the oral hygienist is a woman, and having a woman's hands in my mouth doesn't make me bisexual, because it's not a sexual experience, unless I choose to interpret it that way.

Ack, this discussion is becoming quite tedious. Not sexy at all. I suppose I should have expected this result as an outcome of my initial questions...

Seeing the act as portrayed in pornography, it generally appeared to be on the humiliation and of the scale. Reading about it in various forums and such, I have mostly read accounts/discussions that tended more towards the "hot crazy sex" aspect (which would be where a portion of my fascination comes in).
You're right on that account. Making any kind of homo-related comment around straight men has quite often received very poorly (but not universally), whereas most straight men seem to have absolutely no conception of how their own hetro-related comments might be might be equally unwelcome by gay men (but we're more used to it). It's has been an arduous path of self-cultivation on my part, in recent years, to learn to act more naturally, and without fear of retaliation by others, because in contrast to my previous statement, I have found, at this time and place in my life, that the straight men I am acquainted with are far more at ease with these topics then I would have expected them to be...

Nathan - My superficial hubby answered your question like this " as long as he was good looking, it would be kinda flattering I guess " lol ( he has always attracted alot of attention from both sexes - think show pony) .....

So He is ok with us playing with Bi men, as long as there is no pressure for him to have any bi contact, and as long as the bi guy involved knows that.



Having said that, I have found as a woman doing DP or even MMF theesomes without DP just head and sex to be better if both men are hetro. I prefer having sexual experiences with men that are totally into me .

In the situation of a MFF threesome I am fine with female attention , as long as I am not required to be bi with them. Doesn't bother me if she is lusting after me ...... we are attention whores


Everyone has heard the saying , your only three drinks away from a bi experience , we have both been pretty plastered in group sex sessions and still gone ewww at a pussy ( for me) or a cock (for him) ....so i guess we are a horse traquiliser away from a bi experience

As for the question of degradation in porn, if you look at most hetro porn (ones which are not produced by women) , it is pretty degrading to women ( mostly) ....for me porn is merely scenes for wanking over, I don't think it ever really reflects real life sex, I, for one, remove my shoes

In real life DVP or DP is a hot steamy sex session of complete trust and pleasure. Women don't offer you their bodies totally like that very often ....


:)

Honey

(p.s Nathan , any quesions etc are fine by me, takes alot for me to take offence and I totally understand your confusion having never been there done that )

wild honey, can we clone you?? ;-)

I grew up doing DPs in high school and even college. My wrestling teammates and I would share willing girls. I learned that a woman filled with cock in three holes is a beautiful site. We would find our rythem and go for it. We never used condoms (stupid) but we did use lots of lube (smart). I have been involved with double penetrations, double pussy penetrations, and double anal penetrations. The last not a ton of fun for the woman.
My one friend would get mad if I shot a load up her pussy while he was up there too. I had to learn politeness with group sex and I did. It was wierd doing DP with all our legs tangled up. Sometimes I didnt really know who was grabbing my balls. It was good though. I got lost in the moments and watching her take all of us in was pure bliss. Three people finding their rythem is a cool thing.
One drunk night we manadged to do a three way penetration. I layed on my back and two guys mounted her from behind. I was up her pussy while they shared her asshole. It was more difficult as her pussy was clentched so tight on me it was kicking me out. It was one guy to many.
When I first did a double penetration it just seemed natural. I didnt realize being up her ass I would feel my best friend's cock through the thin walls of her body. That took getting used to.
DPs and group sex are addictive for me.
Jake

Having big egos and being full of testosterone with a side of aggression I never stopped to think of the humiliation aspect for women. They always had orgasms and we never forced a girl. Anyone whoever regretted it never had to do it again. Some guys didn;t like the feeling or were to afraid of getting another dude's spunk on them or were "homophobic" and were afraid of what rubbing 2 cocks together would make them.
DPs are hardcore and animalistic. They are for aggressive sexual people who are not afraid of an audience, body contact, or a little pain with their pleasure. I guess that is why most of my wrestling team participated.
Jake

Some of the MMF DP porns I have seen start out with the guys doing the woman and end with the guys doing each other with the woman on top or giving head.

I have alwasy been the "passive" guy in DVP's adn DP's, that is on the bottom. I really do not care aabout the other dude....it is the Females pleasure I am concerned with. So what if another dudes cock is next to mine, and am sure he does not care either. The DVP's I have been involved with are another dude and his wife. Her pleasure is #! for both of us...and if he cums on me...well frankly isn't sex and fucking all about cumming and everyone involved cumming.

My very first DVP...I had fucked her. We were all on our sides, she was between he and I and he was fucking her from behind. I was playing with her titties and reached down to her pussy and played with her. Her top leg was up and she took hold of my cock and put it in her pussy along with his cock. It was probably the hottest fuck I had ever done. She knew what she wanted and was not afraid to go for it.

There were other times when we got together and he took hold of my cock and put it in her. Did I mind it, did it bother me...not really.

There have been other couples I have been involved with and having a guy touch or take hold of my cock....not really a problem.

Heh, I never watch gay porn (boring), and I only watch straight porn out of morbid curiosity. But thank you for removing your shoes. I saw this one clip, once, where I was certain that the woman was about to puncture the man's femoral artery while mounting him, and that he would bleed to death on video...

Yeah, that's why I've never found all-male DAP to be appealing.
In my formulate years, I was somewhat surprised to find that men were much more polite and respectful in group sex situations, then I found them to be one on one.
Heh. That made me chuckle, as the sole MMF encounter I have had was with the woman taking the role of dominatrix, and the other man and I physically bound together, completely naked in front of an audience of several dozen other men, alternately wrestling each other and making out, while she used a variety of implements to inflict "sensation" the ass of whoever was currently on top (to quote the party's host, "And the worst part was when she used the Taser on your balls!"). It shocked a lot of people who had previously considered me to be a sexually reserved person (not reserved, just selective).

I'm vaguely ambivalent to this concept...

This about sums my attitude as well. Yes, I know I can feel the other guy's cock but all I'm focussing on is giving the woman (usually my wife) pleasure. To feel her reaching orgasm is truely out of this world!

I have to say, although straight, the idea of double vag is really intriguing to me. It seems like at least a few of you all have tried it. While I doubt I'll ever get the chance, I would love to know what it feels like just once.

i have only done this using the woman's favorite toys. never with another man. although i have humped women who have been DP'd before.

The only DP I've been involved in is DVP, and I've done it a fair bit. In my experience I have to agree with Jake... it's very, very visceral, animalistic, etc. Totally raw. When I go to parties looking to get laid, I almost never go alone (I usually go with my bro). MMF is my poison of choice because the girl gets off on it so much. After you've been in a 3some, it isn't the same to have the girl cum just once or twice during 1-on-1. You know it could be hotter for her. From what I've seen DVP gets women off faster, harder, and more often.

As far as the "DP is bi" concept, it isn't always true. In my case I just love to see the girl's reaction. Sure, there is dick contact involved, but 100% of my attention is on the woman's sensation. I am a little bi, but not during DP. Don't see the attraction, crammed into a pussy like that... there's pain for all parties involved (when it's good, there are also friction burns ), and honestly, it's endured for the benefit of 2 separate acts: GuyA and Girl, and GuyB and Girl. Combining them just makes it feel better.