anal sex

I'm moving the argument (since it ceases to be a debate) over here.


Let me be completely clear in my postion in this:

I am 100% for women who enjoy anal sex and willingly encourage it within their sexual relationships of their own free will.

I am 100% against ANYONE (be it woman, man, transexual, or any other variation thereof) who feels pressured by a society which pressures anyone to do anything against their inclination or nature.

There's a heterosexual male phenomenon of creating sexual "norms" afoot in this land and it's counter, in my opinion, to the free will of women in general and gay men as well:

In a society where bisexuality is seen by many heterosexual men as a "natural progression for women but not men" and anal sex as "wrong" for men but somehow permissible for their female partners, I see an insidiousness to the subliminal seduction of heterosexual women into a sexual behavior (if against their will) counterproductive to the sexuality of ALL people irrespective of gender or sexual orientation.

That's my stance. I stand by it.

I think that this portion of your post assumes that all the males that defined what this country now consider to be norms were straight and I find that hard to believe and impossible to prove, regardless of how the norms came to be defined/accepted/socialized.

I missed the rest of the context for this debate, so I can't really speak to it.

I can say that, if we believe that gay people have been around as long as people have been around, then members of our community have, theoretically, in the past helped to shape these norms by their actions or inactions. Let's not blame heterosexuals for every evil in the world. It's polarizing and unnecessary.

It ceased to be a debate the second you sank to the level of criticizing non-native English speakers about their English idiom.

Coming from someone who typed the cacophony of would-be French "un homme Belgique" on these boards multiple times this week, that's pretty fucking rich.

This post is intended to show you what it feels like when you transform debate into personal attacks.

If this thread needs to be merged with another, I can do that. No need to pick another debate/fight needlessly.

I am, however, going to move this thread to SEX rather than have it in ETC.

And you're 100% against men who enjoy anal sex and willingly encourage it within their sexual relationships:

http://www.lpsg.org/558819-post15.html


Carry on.

I think what Stronzo meant was not an insult, rather a misunderstanding of context.
Back to the subject, though.
If a person is forced against their will to take part in a sexual act, it can be construed as "rape" or "sexual abuse" in most parts of the world. What is trying to be conveyed in this thread is for people who are not comfortable with their partners' desires to speak out and let their opinions be known.
It appears some who have posted on the "other orifice" thread have missed the entire point.

"Girls have pussies and their awesome." - Stronzo

Thanks Lex.

It was becoming a battle of wills with several females and me so I began anew in order to make my position clear.

Alex-

I neither require nor enlist your commentary about her abilities in English as I perceived them in connection to misunderstaning my words. My intention is crystal clear and you're simply dumping your "alex kerosene" into the mix to flame things. It's counterproductive.

Now if you have something of merit to contribute I'll listen to you. Otherwise I'd ask that you keep topical to the thread topic. Thanks.

Fucking IS a power dynamic--whether it be vaginal (MF) or anal (MM or MF). I'll admit that much.

I knew someone years ago who refused to watch male-female anal sex because he said it was "too close to faggot." As if fucking a woman up the ass means you are gay.

I mean, if a man and woman decide to try anal sex, that is their call. We keep saying we don't want straight people in our bedrooms, so I think that calls for us to stay out of theirs as well.

I find this argument interesting coming from a prideful total top. How do you intend to judge the pleasures of receiving anal penetration when you have never done so?

How does one know they will enjoy anal sex unless they try it? By try it, I mean more than once, too with someone who knws what they are doing.

I repeat: Every top needs to be fucked in his ass at least once. More than once would be even better. How can you expect to be any good at anal sex if you don't know what it feels like for a man to have a hard dick in his ass? Give it up & take it like a man. You just might be suprised.

This is a commonly held idea that is perfectly acceptable on the surface of it. The problem it gives me is that it takes for granted that one's personal level of tolerance at a given point in time is somehow a universal truth.

Cross eras and/or cultures and you'll find huge variations in what is considered normal and acceptable sexual behaviour.

Dilz?

Thanks for reiterating my sentiments for me. It's saved me the trouble and reinforced them nicely.

Carry on.

Once again, I will make it clear: you reduce discussions from the level of debate to personal argument with a condescending tone, as per your response above.

While others manage to continue their debates on the threads where they began, you continually feel the need to start a new thread re-stating a position you have made on the original thread in the hope that this time someone will agree with you.

You act like a petulant child, and after throwing your schoolyard taunts around on one thread, you start another so that you can play the game 'your way' rather than with those you've left behind irritated and insulted.

What I am adding to this thread which is 'of worth' is the question as to why it needs to exist, other than to pander to your own ego, when the self-same subject was already being discussed on the other thread, at least by those who didn't resort to personal insults and who could reply with respect for those in whom they were engaged in discussion.

I'll make it simple, so you dont have to go moving the thread anywhere else :)

If I like it, and they like it, its not illigal and no one outside the relationship (be it one night or long term) is being affacted, then what does it matter what he/she is sticking up the other or where they are sticking it? Thats it, you've got it, it doesn't.

"However, this is absolutely my final post". alex8

It can only be hoped.


Condescension is something you'd know firsthand. I'll take it from your sage point of view since you do drive-by sarcastic condescensions at will as a matter of " " course lest you forget your favorite emoticon.

You're the height of the pot calling the kettle black alex.

I stated clearly my intent in beginning a new thread. It was to clarify my view before my intent was any further misconstrued by the board women who enjoy a dick up their asses. I don't care who agrees with me especially if that person's you. You're an ass and an 'annoying little man' as far as I'm concerned. (You'll recall the sentiment I'm sure)....

Speaking of petulance I assume you feel better now for expressing your own? Good boy..

It 'needs to exist' because (last I knew) I didn't need to run my feelings, senitments, notions, or beliefs by some guy in Germany before posting a thread topic.

That substantiated? Calma e gesso.

Then you've misundertood me Lex.

I was speaking to the majority of heterosexual men in our ranks who buy the premise I described.

Since admittedly you've not digested the entire dialogue it would be helpful if you'd not interpret things as broadly as you have. However the males of whom I do speak have quite successfully defined the sexual norms of the day (or at least to the degree that when a network sitcom dad says "the right kind of threesome" we somehow get what he means).

It is to that imbalance I address all my statements here and on the thread that instigated my creation of this one.