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View Poll Results: Would you take a gay 'cure' to make you straight? | |
No
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Yes
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I'd have to think about it
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09-05-2006
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#1 (permalink)
| | | Gay 'cure' I've just watched the new X Men film and it got me thinking, if there was an injection that could make a gay man into a straight man, how many gay people out there would take it? I think if asked three or four years ago my answer would probably have been yes, but these days i wouldn't even consider it; i don't think my boyfriend would be very pleased. What about anyone else? | | | |
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09-05-2006
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#2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kank84 I've just watched the new X Men film and it got me thinking, if there was an injection that could make a gay man into a straight man, how many gay people out there would take it? I think if asked three or four years ago my answer would probably have been yes, but these days i wouldn't even consider it; i don't think my boyfriend would be very pleased. What about anyone else? | When I was younger and less secure.
Now I wouldn't. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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| | | Maybe...
That reminds me of the question that if you were able to cure "the gay" before they were born, through whatever genetic changes, I would actually say for people to go for it, if it would keep people from having to go through all the feelings I had to go through, all the comments, the losses, the fear, and the continuing thoughts I still have today... | | | |
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09-05-2006
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| | | No.
Humanity only grows through diversity.
Otherwise we become a Borg hive, devoid of difference, devoid of individuality.
The notion of "curing" implies 'dealing with a sickness' anyway, which is enough to make me vomit. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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#5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kank84 I've just watched the new X Men film and it got me thinking, if there was an injection that could make a gay man into a straight man, how many gay people out there would take it? I think if asked three or four years ago my answer would probably have been yes, but these days i wouldn't even consider it; i don't think my boyfriend would be very pleased. What about anyone else? | Let me tell you how thoughtless this poll/question is; utterly
There.
I would, however, suggest some people take the anti-stupid injection should they invent one.  | | | |
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09-05-2006
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Originally Posted by alex8 No.
The notion of "curing" implies 'dealing with a sickness' anyway, which is enough to make me vomit. | Yes i realise that cure isn't the best term since it implies sickness, but i couldn't think of another one that got the message accross. I did toy with de-gay, but for some reason anything that starts with de- always brings de-lousing to my mind. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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Originally Posted by kank84 Yes i realise that cure isn't the best term since it implies sickness, but i couldn't think of another one that got the message accross. I did toy with de-gay, but for some reason anything that starts with de- always brings de-lousing to my mind. | The problem with "cure" is that it is precisely the terminology used by various crypto-fascist fundamentalist groups, as well as by the sect of scientology. It also harks back to an era of psychiatry when the medical establishment in some parts of the world really did believe that homosexuality could be (or indeed, needed to be) 'cured'. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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| | | No. It would hurt the man I love.
I would have considered it when I was young, though. I was in love with a woman, and eveyone agreed that we made a beautiful couple. If we could hqve just made the sex work, I'd be a happily married man. She'd be furious if I showed up on her doostep straight. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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Originally Posted by Stronzo Let me tell you how thoughtless this poll/question is; utterly | The real issue I have with this poll... is the one person who has answered 'yes' so far... they would want to 'cure' their gayness.
The poll can serve only to remind us how deep-rooted a person's self-loathing can become when they are subjected to social rejection, ridicule or exclusion.
Whether there is a chance for this to lead onto a discussion that might be beneficial for people who really feel that kind of inner hatred towards themselves... I really don't know at this stage. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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Originally Posted by kank84 Yes i realise that cure isn't the best term since it implies sickness, but i couldn't think of another one that got the message accross. I did toy with de-gay, but for some reason anything that starts with de- always brings de-lousing to my mind. | There are a lot of different ways you could have asked this without using the term cure. If you could not think of a term or phrase, then I suggest that you should not start the poll.
Most people who are different feel so only when reminded in someway that they are different. Even with all the self-hatred in the world, its never going to garner kind responses to ask people to change something so fundamentally connected to their identity. It implies that they hate themselves.
What people who are different often want is for the ignorance and bigotry directed at those who are different to go away. Nothing more. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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Originally Posted by alex8 The real issue I have with this poll... is the one person who has answered 'yes' so far... they would want to 'cure' their gayness.
The poll can serve only to remind us how deep-rooted a person's self-loathing can become when they are subjected to social rejection, ridicule or exclusion.
Whether there is a chance for this to lead onto a discussion that might be beneficial for people who really feel that kind of inner hatred towards themselves... I really don't know at this stage. |
Hold on, I put down "maybe", most likely IF I went into another phase of depression I MIGHT, but where I am now in my life it would be no, I would like to make that clear. I should have made the more clear in my first post...
EDIT- I just noticed that there is a poll on this page and that's most likely what you referring too, also I will not be voting on this poll just so everyone knows. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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#13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by alex8 The real issue I have with this poll... is the one person who has answered 'yes' so far... they would want to 'cure' their gayness.
The poll can serve only to remind us how deep-rooted a person's self-loathing can become when they are subjected to social rejection, ridicule or exclusion.
Whether there is a chance for this to lead onto a discussion that might be beneficial for people who really feel that kind of inner hatred towards themselves... I really don't know at this stage. | I second that. You gotta love yourself if you expect anyone else to love you.
Wow. What a sad and poignant reminder. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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Originally Posted by Stronzo Let me tell you how thoughtless this poll/question is; utterly
There.
I would, however, suggest some people take the anti-stupid injection should they invent one.  | Yes this is just sick! This is insulting. | | | |
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09-05-2006
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#15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lex There are a lot of different ways you could have asked this without using the term cure. If you could not think of a term or phrase, then I suggest that you should not start the poll.
Most people who are different feel so only when reminded in someway that they are different. Even with all the self-hatred in the world, its never going to garner kind responses to ask people to change something so fundamentally connected to their identity. It implies that they hate themselves.
What people who are different often want is for the ignorance and bigotry directed at those who are different to go away. Nothing more. | Well said!
I find the use of the word 'cure' in this context offensive, and I find it both surprising and sad that a predominantly gay person could want to ask this question at all.
For some, and especially in the US, there are gay people that live with the constant pressure from family and peers, mostly in a religious context, to 'cure' their gayness through prayer and 'de-conditioning' and what have you.
For those that cannot withstand that pressure the added self-loathing and the loss of happiness is very real.
I am certainly not going to treat this subject like some kind of 'party game'!
And no, I have never wanted to change my preference for men - not when I was younger and not now.
And I will not participate in this poll.
I think you should rather focus on cultivating some real dignity and pride in who you are, kank84! | | | |
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