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...but I would for YOU." OK, something I'm not getting. There's nothing ambiguous about the BTM in my nickname. Now, considering most of my "experience" with men is pretty confined to chatting and the cyber

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Old 09-03-2006   #1 (permalink)
novice_btm is online now
"I'm not a top...

...but I would for YOU."

OK, something I'm not getting. There's nothing ambiguous about the BTM in my nickname. Now, considering most of my "experience" with men is pretty confined to chatting and the cyber realm in general, they see a firm label planted on me from the start. It's not like the guys that I'm chatting about see me in the market, and have to figure anything out at all. So...

Lately, I've been approached by guys that say things like, "Hey, bottom here too! What's up?", and "I need to get pounded so bad. Wanna hook up?" Or, my two most recent favorites, who said almost the exact same thing, "Well, there's just one problem... I'm not a top, but I would for YOU." The last two could be taken as flattering, but I don't get devoted bottoms approaching another bottom.

It just seems odd to me. I mean, straight guys don't approach another guy and say, "Man, I need to get in some pussy. Can I suck your cock?"
 
Old 09-03-2006   #2 (permalink)
GoneA is offline

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Originally Posted by novice_btm
"Well, there's just one problem... I'm not a top, but I would for YOU." The last two could be taken as flattering, but I don't get devoted bottoms approaching another bottom.
Well, it's just that: they'll top for you. You don't have to worry about the eventuality of them reverting back to being a bottom as many of those guys are looking for quickies and one-night-stands.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #3 (permalink)
novice_btm is online now

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Originally Posted by GoneA
Well, it's just that: they'll top for you. You don't have to worry about the eventuality of them reverting back to being a bottom as many of those guys are looking for quickies and one-night-stands.
Yeah, I guess I get this part of it, but I still don't get the guys who are bottom-only, yet still approach other bottoms to "hook up".

"Uh, yeah, ok, and do WHAT?"
 
Old 09-03-2006   #4 (permalink)
GoneA is offline

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Originally Posted by novice_btm
"Uh, yeah, ok, and do WHAT?"
Yeah, if they're looking for a LTR then there's definitely going to be a lot of awkward silence.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #5 (permalink)
joyboytoy79 is offline

Novice... I have the same problem.

him: hey wanna hook up?
me: uh, aren't you a bottom?
him: yeah, but you're so hot, i'd top for you
me: but, doesn't that make you vers?
him: no, i've never topped before, you would be the first
me: so, you're completely inexperienced and have no clue what you're doing???

I don't get it. I'm not interested in converting any bottoms. ESPECIALLY those who have never before had any interest in topping. Makes no sence.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #6 (permalink)
novice_btm is online now

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Originally Posted by joyboytoy79
Novice... I have the same problem.

him: hey wanna hook up?
me: uh, aren't you a bottom?
him: yeah, but you're so hot, i'd top for you
me: but, doesn't that make you vers?
him: no, i've never topped before, you would be the first
me: so, you're completely inexperienced and have no clue what you're doing???

I don't get it. I'm not interested in converting any bottoms. ESPECIALLY those who have never before had any interest in topping. Makes no sence.
EXACTLY! It would be completely different if they were the "Ass turns me on so much, I've always wanted to try one" sort, but these are dedicated bottoms that are hitting on me.

Almost as odd/annoying as a "total top" guy I know. He was playing with my ass, and was getting more and more turned on, that *I* was getting so turned on that he stopped, and started asking all kinds of questions about it, and how it felt, etc. *This is the same guy from other thread that almost cried with pleasure from me being the first to ever fully deepthroat him, so things were pretty hot and heavy at this point.* Eventually, he somehow got to the point where he wanted to find out what it was like. *I suspended my own (dis)belief.* Then, had me play with his ass. He seemed a bit uncomfortable, but had me keep going. Then... he says, "I wanna feel you in me." I say that I'm a bottom, and I'm not who he wants in there. He keeps asking, and telling me how good he'll make me feel after I do him, blah blah blah... More pressure, eventually, I relent, pop on a rubber, pour on the lube, ease it in, and he's TOTALLY turned on. He strokes himself while I pump, and in no time shoots a big load all over himself. I purposely don't cum, so that I'm horned as hell for him to do me, but, of course, instead he says, "Oh man, that was too intense. I came way too hard to get it back up right now." This from the guy who hounded me for MONTHS to get at my ass.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #7 (permalink)
Lex
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Ah, Novice-- have broached this one before but it has been a while. It seems that some people are truthful and others lie in order to make themselves more marketable. I tend to lean towards most guys being a little dishonest, so I read the words as follows:

Total Top = Won't ever bottom (unless you get a good lubed finger in there)
Top= Will bottom
Top\Vers = versatile--wants to top and bottom
Vers = bottom
Bottom/Vers = might top if you get him hot and he can keep it up
Bottom = lays there and does not move.


I had a guy chat me up a few days ago who told me he was versatile. When I pressed further, he recanted to being Bottom/Vers (with a big preference for the bottom).

I have also had guys who are total tops lie and say they are versatile since I won't ever flip for someone who won't flip for me.

I consider myself much more top, although I will bottom if chemistry is right. I don't advertise versatile, however because of the connotation of the liars. I wear one armband, on the left. When I start really talking to someone, I let them know.

In the end, I think it boils down to these top/bottom classifications being seem as more (top) or less (bottom) manly and the social stigma involved in some people's paradigms.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #8 (permalink)
GoneA is offline

If you're looking for quick hook-ups I don't see what the problem is, really. You and your prospect meet for a few hours, do what you must do, and then the roads diverge.

I personally don't do hook-ups (well, that's not entirely true), so I would have to find a dyed-in-the-wool bottom. However, if I were into one-night-stands then I wouldn't mind reversing for a guy that I was truly interested in.

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Originally Posted by novice_btm
I purposely don't cum, so that I'm horned as hell for him to do me, but, of course, instead he says, "Oh man, that was too intense. I came way too hard to get it back up right now." This from the guy who hounded me for MONTHS to get at my ass.
.

, indeed.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #9 (permalink)
joyboytoy79 is offline

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex
Total Top = Won't ever bottom (unless you get a good lubed finger in there)
Top= Will bottom
Top\Vers = versatile--wants to top and bottom
Vers = bottom
Bottom/Vers = might top if you get him hot and he can keep it up
Bottom = lays there and does not move.
Lexie, this had me cracking UP!

Although, i can assure you, as a "Bottom" myself, i DO move, a LOT. And often i'm not lying down. In fact, usually i'm in a sitting possition and the "Top" is lying down and not moving much (other than to arch his back from intense pleasure!).
 
Old 09-03-2006   #10 (permalink)
Matthew is offline

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Originally Posted by novice_btm
Yeah, I guess I get this part of it, but I still don't get the guys who are bottom-only, yet still approach other bottoms to "hook up".

"Uh, yeah, ok, and do WHAT?"
Double-headed dildo pajama party?
 
Old 09-03-2006   #11 (permalink)
Lex
Lex is offline

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Originally Posted by joyboytoy79
Lexie, this had me cracking UP!

Although, i can assure you, as a "Bottom" myself, i DO move, a LOT. And often i'm not lying down. In fact, usually i'm in a sitting possition and the "Top" is lying down and not moving much (other than to arch his back from intense pleasure!).
JoyBoyToy--I love it when a bottom likes to ride on top. Good bottoms do this very well. Kudos to you!
 
Old 09-03-2006   #12 (permalink)
headbang8 is offline

There are certain things you do in a relationship. Cook breakfast for two. See a movie that you don't really want to see. Wait patiently on a bench at the mall while the other half shops. Laugh at a half-funny joke. Put up with a green living room. Couples inconvenience each other all the time--happily. For me, bottoming may be a pain in the ass (literally) but I do it from time to time because it gives him pleasure, and it's only a pain in the ass. Consider it a compliment. Sometimes, the pleasure of sex is in moments of generosity.
 
Old 09-03-2006   #13 (permalink)
joyboytoy79 is offline

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Originally Posted by Lex
JoyBoyToy--I love it when a bottom likes to ride on top. Good bottoms do this very well. Kudos to you!
joyboytoy79 swoons over Lex
 
Old 09-03-2006   #14 (permalink)
wowniceone is offline

i don't see why the heck we have to put such hard and fast labels as "top" or "bottom" on ourselves. i LOVE to get fucked, but sometimes a guy's ass turns me on so much i want it.

that said, i can't tell you how many guys i've met in the anticipation of being the receptive partner, only to have them see me and have the "roles" reverse. that's why i market myself as a "vers-bttm"
 
Old 09-03-2006   #15 (permalink)
novice_btm is online now

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex
...
Bottom = lays there and does not move.

In the end, I think it boils down to these top/bottom classifications being seem as more (top) or less (bottom) manly and the social stigma involved in some people's paradigms.
Well, I fully self-label as a bottom, but have NEVER been accused of laying there, or even as being anything other than a good experience.

Yeah, those labels and stigmas have GOT to go! I don't care how manly/macho/butch/masc/str8 you are, if you quiver THAT much when I just touch your ass cheek, you're NOT a "total top"!
 

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