People of Faith

Pecker · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Stronzo

Which faith Pecker?

I'm curious and not in a bashing sort of way. Is it Christianity or another?

I'm a man of faith as well.

I am a Christian, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints since 1971.

Lordpendragon · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

Sorry, Lordpendragon, but your questions have been lost to the inevitable bashing by those to whom the queries were not origionally directed. I hope that wasn't your intent.

So, as a man of faith, I will not publicly express my heartfelt feelings. Pearls before swine, and all that.

I certainly did not wish a bashing.

I have not read them all myself. I have tried a few, but can't maintain interest. I think that it is the alien style as much as anything.

I imagine that if I had grown up in another country which was not as free as my own, I may well have been calling myself a religious believer now.

Stronzo · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

I am a Christian, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints since 1971.

Thanks for responding.

So you chose that faith rather than being raised in it.

I assume you're not joking here Pecker and if not do you hold to that Church's beliefs about abortion and homosexuality?

Gisella · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

I am a Christian, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints since 1971.

Pecker is the same as Mormon? If so and i'm not so sure I do apologize when I criticize about "mormons" groups that embrace polygamy and have practices that include minors and etc. that regular Mormons do not agree with them too.

And about the Catholics in the US you must understand that I'm talking about my reality in Brasil, have not much ideia how the CC is here. And in Brasil we do have an 'official' church, in the US you do not.

I dont want to offend anyones religion and faith.

Pecker · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Stronzo

Thanks for responding.

So you chose that faith rather than being raised in it.

I assume you're not joking here Pecker and if not do you hold to that Church's beliefs about abortion and homosexuality?

Yes, I'm a convert, Stronz. I don't personally support abortion but as for homosexuality, that requires a judgement that I feel I don't have the authority to make, thankfully.

I don't make friendships contingent upon sexuality.

senor rubirosa · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

Yes, I'm a convert, Stronz. I don't personally support abortion but as for homosexuality, that requires a judgement that I feel I don't have the authority to make, thankfully.

I don't make friendships contingent upon sexuality.

Funny, I always knew I loved pecker.

Lordpendragon · 09-02-2006

My previous post was a bit narrow.

There are countries where the faith/religion is the only option, but I have also been to many places where the religion plays a more active part in everyday life than is common in our countries (exceptions I know). Our Church has struggled and to be honest failed to get away from religion is for Sundays. I think that if your religion plays an active role in your everyday practices, you are more likely to consider this completely normal and enjoy the community. I may well have been more religious in these circumstances.

Stronzo · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

Yes, I'm a convert, Stronz. I don't personally support abortion but as for homosexuality, that requires a judgement that I feel I don't have the authority to make, thankfully.

I don't make friendships contingent upon sexuality.

Thanks Pecker.

This is helpful to me since I don't know any.

I'd wondered how many people who possessed the ability of "nuance of thought" (much as you do) get around what I preconceived were fairly strict beliefs within that denomination.

I don't make friendships based on religion either so we're looking at things similarly.

b.c. · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Gisella

I think that are a difference between faith and religions...that are people of faith all over the world that do not belong to a religion.

I have faith but dont attach it to a religion that involves a headquarter, a lider/guru and rituals. My faith is in God and love for my fellow human in dispair, the poor mostly. Than social work is where i like to be and make friends, listen to their stories and acknowlege their struggles and hardships...but if this kind of work involves burocracy and blablabla...i dont like it.

Yes I was born in a syncretist (Native Americans, Afro, Christian, others beliefs) society mix , but the 'official' religion says Catholicism...Than I try and live and see many things but I dont like mysticism and hierarquies walls and secrets rituals, exclusiveness and $$$$ contributions to institutions to them distribute to the needy...I prefer i choose where i want to invest my time and resources and will not give power to an authority do it to me.

I dont like impositions in my life comming from religions but i do think I'm a 'mainstrean moralist' (i learn this expression here...) in issues that for me is common sense, like protect the young, the sick, fragile, poor and etc by good laws that is not only in a paper but works in reality. At the same time I'm for the strenght of families and give acess to good education, health, home and etc affordable to the working classes..but my thinking is mostly focus in the hardiships in the reality of a 3rdworld country.

This is my faith practices: Action in basic peoples needs and social issues that is motivated by love (compassion, frustration,dispair, anger etc) that do not involve deal with burocracy and institutions.

yeah...what she said...

Dr. Dilznick · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

I am a Christian, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints since 1971.

The racist "Curse of Cain" doctrine barred blacks from the Mormon priesthood until as late as 1978. Why has it not received any formal repudiation?

madame_zora · 09-02-2006

Interesting questions LPD, I have often wondered what my life would have been like had I been born in India. I have read parts of the Vedas, parts of the Koran, studied Zen Buddhism briefly and read some of the teachings of some Native American tribes, but I wouldn't claim to have nearly as much knowledge of those as I do the Bible because it's been a bigger part of my own life.

I find it very likely that I would have been Hindu had I been born in India and had less freedom or encouragement to seek my own path, but I would like to believe that my personal philosophies would have remained fairly similar. Most major religions have a Godhead, a "son" figure and the basic beliefs in doing kindnesses for one another. I would hope I would have abstracted the good from whatever religion I was born into.

chicagosam · 09-02-2006

I received the best of all possible educations on this subject from my parents. I have been raised to be acceptant and of and open to all faiths. All of them have something to teach. All of them have worth. None is more important than the other.

chicagosam · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Pecker

Yes, I'm a convert, Stronz. I don't personally support abortion but as for homosexuality, that requires a judgement that I feel I don't have the authority to make, thankfully.

I don't make friendships contingent upon sexuality.

How can one not admire and respect this man?

Spoogesicle · 09-02-2006

I have read the sacred texts of other religions and have come to the conclusion that most, if not all, faiths are striving for a common goal. No one religion is right for everyone because people are different. For some, no religion is the best option. We all have a conscience and how we use or misuse it does not depend on profession of a particular creed, or any creed at all. I have a religion, and I choose to live it. I may not reach the same conclusion that others find in their journey of faith, but I can respect the quest.

vindicari · 09-02-2006

I beleive in a higher power than us, however I dont beleive in religion. Religion in its many guises is the creation of man. We have corrupted the ideals of an omnipotent forgiving god to fulfill our greed and aspirations. Religion has caused every war mankind has fought, heres a question, how can an army have a padre? How can a man of god call for blessings on an institution thats sole function is to kill. Did the big man himself not say thou shalt not kill.

People of Faith

Originally Posted by Stronzo Which faith Pecker? I'm curious and not in a bashing sort of way. Is it Christianity or another? I'm a man of faith as well. I am a Christian, a member