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Old 10-26-2004   #14 (permalink)
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swallows13: I'd like to pipe in with the reverse perspective:

I consider myself gay, but if I had to put a label on it and be truly accurate, I'd probably say that I'm "straight-curious," meaning that I'm sometimes turned on by the idea of havng sex with women (and not necessarily by the idea of having bisexual, i.e. MMF, sex).

The way I see it, 'gay' is just a word, and like any other word, it's subject to ambiguity and degrees of typicality. To use the usual examples: a tomato can be a fruit or a vegetable or both, depending on how you define the words; some birds are more bird-like than others (compare robins to ostriches), etc. Depending on who you're talking to, the word 'gay' could mean: (1) exclusively attracted to men, (2) primarily attracted to men, (3) exclusively attracted to women but willing to have sex with men (think prostitues, prisoners, etc.), (4) identified with the gay culture, or 'out' as opposed to closeted, .... And, depending on the definition chosen, it seems to me that some guys can be 'gayer' than others. Heck, I can think of a lot of guys who, in some sense of the word, are gayer than me. And I think think of a lot of guys who I'm gayer than. The bottom line is that I still consider myself 'gay,' even if I've thought about fucking women. In the same way, I consider myself "happy," but that doesn't mean that I've never been sad.

The question that originated this thread, as I interpret it, was whether there was a connection between being hung and being more likely to experiment with guys, even if the hung experimenter considers himself "straight." I don't see how arguing over whether such experimenters are really "gay" merely by virtue of the experimentation is getting us any closer to an answer to that question. And I really don't see how arguing over whether a label that's right for you is right for somebody else is productive at all, unless the somebody else is asking for help with choosing a label. (And I'm not. So if you're thinking of writing me and saying that I'm not really gay, forget it.)