03-22-2006
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#31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dr Rock while DWTS00 is undoubtedly a moron, there is something to be said for circumstances in cases like these. I had sex with a teacher while i was 13-14 years of age - while she initiated it and the first "encounter" was certainly rape by any legal standard, i've never felt that i was "abused" and to this day i really couldn't care less. that said, it is important that teacher/student sex is discouraged - not on some prudish moral principle, but for the sake of those kids who ARE abused, in the actual rather than the legal sense, and who suffer permanent damage because of it.
clearly, in this case, the sex was consensual, and for all we know ms. lafave would never dream of actually forcing herself on an unwilling student ... but as far as i'm concerned that's irrelevant. she accepted a position of responsibility and if she abuses it she should be punished, regardless of the details. | So you think lafave should be punished, but your teacher shouldnt? because you didnt feel abused? Quote:
Considering the fact your a belligerent asshat, I'll let that go.
But glorify child molestation again, and make fun of those who have been on the recieving end, ie. your oh so wonderful therapy line... I will make you the laughingstock of this board...if you haven't already accomplished that yourself.
You are an idiot in its most pure form.
| I glorified my own goddamn case, which is non of your busssiness I said IMO its ok but I never would/have had sex with a minor.
2nd, who the fuck did I make fun of?
That 14 yr old boy? If you really think he's a victim then you got your head somewhere else.
Stronzo? he said in another thread he didnt see it as a bad thing, but if it did come of as that then I owe him an apology
And finally spare me the threats and the internet tough guy bullshit.  | | | |
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03-22-2006
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#32 (permalink)
| | | Laws serve to set a standard because there simply aren't enough intelligent human beings to make clear discernments. Most adults who would consider doing such a thing would be telling themselves that the minor was consenting- whether or not it was true. I also had sex with guys over 18 when I was under 16, but I initiated. I disagree that the minor's consent is irrelevant. I mean, I understand that it is in the eyes of the law, but if a 14 year old IS doing the act willingly, it is unlikely to cause long term damage, which impacts society as a whole.
As his teacher, and one in a position of authority in his life, she should be prosecuted. There are degrees of crimes, and while an adult harassing another adult is sexual harassment, with a minor it is statuatory rape, and there's probably not many adults who are unaware of that fact. If she's big enough to play, she's big enough to pay. Too pretty for prison? Puh-leeze! She knew the risks, rolled the dice and she deserves a bunkie named Pat.
This particular double standard is highly offensive to me. Women claim they want to be equal until it serves their purpose to be "the weaker sex".  | | | |
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03-22-2006
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#33 (permalink)
| | | I believe I saw the boy in question on Montel but they talked about a few female teacher/male student cases so I might be a little mixed up. Anyway, the boy I saw said he and many guys had always flirted with the teacher and all of a sudden she started flirting back with him. When the whole sexual thing started he was naturally happy about it (he was closer to being a nerd than a stud) and bragged to all his buddies. Eventually it was all anybody talked about and he started to regret it so he told her he wanted it to stop. Then the teacher basically said that if he didn't continue the relationship she'd fail him and if he told anyone she'd convince them he'd raped her. So he told his parents and that's how it ended. So, regardless of what you think about intergenerational relations it's clear that that was abuse.
I don't have any personal experience with this. All my early encounters were with the same age. Even though there was a teacher or two I wouldn't have minded fooling around with, there's good reason that's illegal. If it was allowed in some circumstances predatory teachers would use that to get away with rape/molestation. I don't like the idea that being under a certain age automatically negates your ability to consent but that's necessary to protect the ones who really don't consent. | | | |
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03-23-2006
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#34 (permalink)
| | | I for one am not going to glorify or promote minors having sex with an adult and spending my time in prison for doing so.
And to allowing a person to continue promoting child molestation on this public forum must stop. This makes everyone speaking on this thread in danger from the federal laws concerning this subject.
You can bitch all you want. The laws have been written. This is the internet.
It was my hope that this thread would die on its own. But it is apparent that DWT has no intention of letting it die.
This is a public announcement. We will not tolerate the glorifcation of sex between a minor and an adult here at the LPSG board.
Is there any part of this anyone does not understand? | | | |
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03-23-2006
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#35 (permalink)
| | | That was really well said.
One of the crazy things about the chart that was referenced earlier, (with states and legal ages,) is that in some states 14 is okay with parental consent. WTF? I have no kids, but I have a baby brother who is ten years younger than me. From the time he was born, I considered him mine. Poor kid ended up with two mothers. When he got engaged I told his wife that I wasn't approving sexual activity for him until he was 40. I don't get the parental consent thing at all. Quote: |
Originally Posted by madame_zora Laws serve to set a standard because there simply aren't enough intelligent human beings to make clear discernments. Most adults who would consider doing such a thing would be telling themselves that the minor was consenting- whether or not it was true. I also had sex with guys over 18 when I was under 16, but I initiated. I disagree that the minor's consent is irrelevant. I mean, I understand that it is in the eyes of the law, but if a 14 year old IS doing the act willingly, it is unlikely to cause long term damage, which impacts society as a whole.
As his teacher, and one in a position of authority in his life, she should be prosecuted. There are degrees of crimes, and while an adult harassing another adult is sexual harassment, with a minor it is statuatory rape, and there's probably not many adults who are unaware of that fact. If she's big enough to play, she's big enough to pay. Too pretty for prison? Puh-leeze! She knew the risks, rolled the dice and she deserves a bunkie named Pat.
This particular double standard is highly offensive to me. Women claim they want to be equal until it serves their purpose to be "the weaker sex".  | | | | |
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03-23-2006
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#36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DWTS00 So you think lafave should be punished, but your teacher shouldnt? because you didnt feel abused?  | um, my teacher didn't get caught (at least not with me), so the question is irrelevant. read the post again: the key word is circumstances. | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DWTS00 Yeah thats BS, I never did anything with a male teacher cause they were all ugly lol and I was still "kinda" straight. but If it did happen or if it was an older male teacher with a younger female student it would be also "abuse"! psshhhh
IMO, if its not forced, if both people (or more) involved like it, then it should be legal. | NAMBLA propaganda.  | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#38 (permalink)
| | | Hmm. She takes a child penis over a growen man's penis....
Well, she's pretty ugly, WAY too much make up. I can see why she got no REAL mans cock.
My opinion? Throw her ass in jail and toss the key in the ocean. Let the "BiG" ladies have their way with her. | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#39 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by HickBoy NAMBLA propaganda.  | Funny, cause the 1st time I heard about the Nambla is now, from YOU
A 15 year old male(ie: Me when i was 15 and had sex with a 27yr old female teacher) is capable of having sex without pressure with consent with an older male or female.
I did not suffer any consequences, any issues, guilty/mixed feelings about it, any...etc....
Seems like you're heavily influenced by relegious bullshit and societal standards without even thinking about them or why they are there.
So the next time you say "propaganda" think about yourself 1st.  | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#40 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LazyKing Hmm. She takes a child penis over a growen man's penis....
Well, she's pretty ugly, WAY too much make up. I can see why she got no REAL mans cock.
My opinion? Throw her ass in jail and toss the key in the ocean. Let the "BiG" ladies have their way with her. | Some kids hit puberty at a younger age.
I think she's fucking hot and so do many more.
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03-24-2006
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#41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DWTS00 Your opinion doesnt matter. | And yet yours is somehow relevant - more so than his? Please, we're all waiting for your explanation. | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chuck64 And yet yours is somehow relevant - more so than his? Please, we're all waiting for your explanation. | I was refering to his opinion on her sentence, it's irrelevant. | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DWTS00 Some kids hit puberty at a younger age.
I think she's fucking hot and so do many more.
Your opinion doesnt matter. | Hmm..so that makes it ok for her to have sex with a minor...yeah...your a total idiot.
You think I care what YOU think? You wish I did.
Oh, but yours does? I'd be happy to get rid of that ignorance with a nice swift kick in your ass if you want.... | | | |
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03-24-2006
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#44 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DWTS00 Funny, cause the 1st time I heard about the Nambla is now, from YOU
A 15 year old male(ie: Me when i was 15 and had sex with a 27yr old female teacher) is capable of having sex without pressure with consent with an older male or female.
I did not suffer any consequences, any issues, guilty/mixed feelings about it, any...etc....
Seems like you're heavily influenced by religious bullshit and societal standards without even thinking about them or why they are there.
So the next time you say "propaganda" think about yourself 1st.  | Much as I think your post lacks delicacy DWT I agree with everything you've written here.
I didn't know what 'NAMBLA' was either until some heterosexual guy on another message board accused me of being a charter member when I didn't get all pissed off cuz that kid who accused M. Jackson of abuse went away unvictorious.
How come some straight dude is more in the know about man-boy love than us?
However, I know the mods are immensely concerned about this topic being regurgitated over and over on the board so as an expression of goodwill I think the topic's best left alone. There's much to be said concerning the "moral majority" and its infiltration into the public thinking regarding morals in this time of great repression.
You'll recall that when I recounted my own story in the "Break the Silence" thread... some simply wouldn't have it that I didn't consider myself abused.
I get what you're saying but few will. And those who are uncomfortable with what you say will call you names and think you advocate pedophilia. Makes no sense, but there you have it.
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03-24-2006
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#45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LazyKing Hmm..so that makes it ok for her to have sex with a minor...yeah...your a total idiot.
You think I care what YOU think? You wish I did.
Oh, but yours does? I'd be happy to get rid of that ignorance with a nice swift kick in your ass if you want.... | Before being an idiot and assuming why I think it's ok, read my previous replies.
If I had any wishes I wouldnt waste em on making you care about what I think.
LOL, Id pay good money to see that.  | | | |
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