03-21-2006
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#31 (permalink)
| | | What did Forrest say?
Beauty is as beauty does? | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by prepstudinsc
Look at how many truly gorgeous people are out there who don't have an ounce of intelligence and how many intelligent people out there who got hit by the ugly stick. If the choice is one extreme or the other, I'll just keep my dog, thank you. In every day life, my reality is that many things work together to make a person both intelligent and beautiful. I don't think that I can choose just one or the other, nor would I want to. | yes actually, i agree completely | | | |
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03-21-2006
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Originally Posted by EnglishGentleman whilst beauty may be an initial sexual attractant, the power of reasoning and invention has truly made the world a better, more comfortable and more easily understood place. Beauty, at best, has helped make babies. | Sorry, EGM, but you've missed my point completely. The reason why beauty exists at all is not to "make babies" as you put it, but to help ensure that the babies which are made are genetically healthy. Good genes give rise to all the characteristics you champion. Inbreeding, even for highly intelligent people, is not recommended.
As for myself, guys don't mind me being pretty, but most would prefer me to be less smart...
LK
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03-21-2006
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Originally Posted by LittleKitten As for myself, guys don't mind me being pretty, but most would prefer me to be less smart...  | I hope that was sarcasm. If not, you need to ditch the boys and find a real man. | | | |
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03-21-2006
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| | | some of the least intelligent people i know have faces like a hat full of assholes.
nice personalities though.. | | | |
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03-21-2006
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Originally Posted by LittleKitten Sorry, EGM, but you've missed my point completely. The reason why beauty exists at all is not to "make babies" as you put it, but to help ensure that the babies which are made are genetically healthy. Good genes give rise to all the characteristics you champion. Inbreeding, even for highly intelligent people, is not recommended.  | I'm always ready to learn. Is there anything you can point me towards which could support this idea? since it contradicts all that I have ever read on the topic. I have yet to read in any of the scientific texts which comprise a significant proportion of my reading matter, any theory or hypothesis that equates physical beauty with genetic fitness for any given situation. I have, however, seen countless references which suggest, quite rightly, that physical looks attract more mates, therefore a greater chance of genetic survival, due to an increased number of mating opportunities. The argument you appear to espouse is essentially that of quantity over quality.
I also fail to understand the relevance in this debate of "inbreeding". No-one has suggested that has any bearing on this discussion as yet, so I am confused as to why you mention it. Would you care to enlighten us?
The principles of natural selection do not dictate that aesthetic beauty has any evolutionary correlation to genetic superiority according to my present knowledge. When environments change it is those best adapted, not those who look the prettiest who survive and propagate the species. It is known as the "Red Queen" theory.
For example; during the last ice age which covered most of our planet approximately 10,000 years ago with tundra, it was those who discovered and embraced fire and invented clothing who survived, plus the hangers on who had the good sense to follow their example. Beauty played no part, only innovation and an ability to see beyond that which stared them in the face. Whilst the beautiful people were frantically copulating in the hope they could survive by weight of numbers as they froze to death, it was those with more developed cognitive abilities who lived on and became our ancestors. Who would you rather be around? The person who offered warmth and protection, or the beautiful naked corpse?
If any of our members with a greater academic knowledge on this topic would care to comment, I would be delighted to hear your views. | | | |
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03-21-2006
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Originally Posted by EnglishGentleman If any of our members with a greater academic knowledge on this topic would care to comment, I would be delighted to hear your views. | Ok, I will try and explain it more clearly for you. Studies have shown that beauty (either racial or gender) is a composite of average features (there are loads, but try Langlois and Roggmann 1990.) Breeding within a small genetic group compounds dominant genetic traits and ultimately produces fluctuating asymmetry, mental disorders and even infertility (again, so many studies I don’t know where to start, but try Bittles 2002.) Conversely, breeding in a large genetic group produces healthy people with average features. Therefore, evolution has taught us that average features (what we think of as beauty) are best for breeding because they indicate the mate is less likely to suffer from genetic disorders. Pretty cool huh?! I actually think we are heading towards a global beauty culture where the genetic traits of individual racial groups will be “averaged” to create a standard… just look at all those ads for Gap and Benetton! Cute people!! Lol xox Anyway, I’ve just showered and as this thread is getting pretty inbred and ugly I’m off to bed…. nite everyone. LK xox | | | |
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03-21-2006
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Originally Posted by prepstudinsc Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. | No, no, no....it goes like this:
Don't hate me b/c I'm beautiful, hate me b/c I'm smarter than you.  | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#39 (permalink)
| | | No, no, no....don't hate me because I'm beautiful and smart.  | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#40 (permalink)
| | | Beautiful and smart is ok.
If you're rich, best skip
Dilznick's thread.  | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#41 (permalink)
| | | Well, I'm gonna speak up for those who like cute and dumb. Specifically, the endearing naivete that makes a cute person even cuter. Like Cher from Clueless. She wouldn't have been half as adorable if she wasn't so vapid. | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#42 (permalink)
| | | I spent 5 years with a hot looking guy who could mentally wrestle me to the mat on just about any occasion. As much of a turn-on as it was to be with someone with big brains, he had a gift for seeking my weak spots and exploiting them in front of others. After it was over with him, I prayed for a gorgeous, stupid stud and found one. What a fucking bore. The worst part was his proclivity for discussing things of which he had absolutely no knowledge. It was truly embarrassing. When this happened, I did my best to focus on his sizzling looks, great body and big dick. Believe me, the latter wore thin quickly. I longed to have an intelligent conversation with my BF but learned that would require a new one. It's not easy for me to find them, I tend to scare the shit out of men. I started speaking to guy number 1 again and a funny thing happened...I discovered they key to keeping up with him had nothing to do with a shortcoming of my own intelligence but a lack of self-confidence. After proving to him (and mostly to myself) that I had the goods to pin his big brain to the mat, I threw his number out. My BF now is the total package, he's handsome, intelligent and has enough dick to make any whore happy. The best part about him is his humility.
For me the moral of the story was this: looks alone are a bore and wear thin quickly and misused intelligence can cause a great deal of damage. | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sorcerer I spent 5 years with a hot looking guy who could mentally wrestle me to the mat on just about any occasion. As much of a turn-on as it was to be with someone with big brains, he had a gift for seeking my weak spots and exploiting them in front of others. After it was over with him, I prayed for a gorgeous, stupid stud and found one. What a fucking bore. The worst part was his proclivity for discussing things of which he had absolutely no knowledge. It was truly embarrassing. When this happened, I did my best to focus on his sizzling looks, great body and big dick. Believe me, the latter wore thin quickly. I longed to have an intelligent conversation with my BF but learned that would require a new one. It's not easy for me to find them, I tend to scare the shit out of men. I started speaking to guy number 1 again and a funny thing happened...I discovered they key to keeping up with him wasn't a shortcoming of my own intelligence but a lack of self-confidence. After proving to him (and mostly to myself) that I had the goods to pin his big brain to the mat, I threw his number out. My BF now is the total package, he's handsome, intelligent and has enough dick to make any whore happy. The best part about him is his humility.
For me the moral of the story was this: looks alone are a bore and wear thin quickly and misused intelligence can cause a great deal of damage. | Great story, Sorc...and I agree...the best
relationship is where you have a nice
balance of what is important to you.
And an intelligent man, who has it going
on in the sex department, with the same
high sex drive too is the biggest turn on.
That way your brain is always engaged
both in and out of bed and what could
possibly be better? | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#44 (permalink)
| | | "Beauty fades, dumb is forever" | | | |
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03-21-2006
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#45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sorcerer For me the moral of the story was this: looks alone are a bore and wear thin quickly and misused intelligence can cause a great deal of damage. | Thats why you leave em and start fucking someone else, again and again and again and again....  | | | |
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