Banned Teens

What if the default lurker option was "avatars OFF"? I mean, when I get tired of someone's avatar (NEVER KinkGuy's ass), I just turn them off for a bit.

IIRC--It wasn't that nudity was restricted--it was frontal nudity below the waist (male and female) and no sexual activities.

I like your humor.

I'm just 54......

After reading all the posts here is what I am hearing:

The problems are being within the law and protecting teens from adult predators within reason. So this is what I am heaing as the solutions:

No nudity anywhere except in galleries which would be restricted to adults.

No pms between teens and adults. Any private conversation would need to be through e-mails. Public comments between adults and teens on the board allowed.

Monitoring of posts for nudity and for inappropriate conversation between adults and teens.

We should be careful not to send a message to teens that somehow all men over 18 are evil and as soon as they turn 18 they will be evil too. I am for monitoring activities. That is the most appropriate action. Humans have never been able to ban any activity. We tried prohibition. Didn't work. Drugs. No way is it controled. Premarital sex and 80 per cent of all kdis have sex before marriage. Banning has never worked and never will. We only give the appearance that something is banned.

Teens will find a way to get on this site no matter what we do. Predators will find some teen somewhere if they want one bad enough. All we can do is provide good examples and sensible rules to help protect the truly innocent.

I know the law and we don't want anyone to get into trouble, but what damage is being done to teens who look at adult penises anyway? Until the 1960s boys and men swam in YMCA swimming pools all nude. Maybe a hundred or so naked guys swimming. What is the difference in seeing guys swimming nude and looking at their picture? Sexual activity is another matter that is porn. Nudity is not porn.

Nude beaches allow families to go nude together there are certainly penises from infancy to old age on display there for hours, days, months, years. It's legal there. But not on the internet.

It all boils down to doing what we have to do to not knowingly allow the law to be broken. I buy a car that will go 100 miles an hour, but if I drive over the speed limit, I get the ticket, not General Motors. So it is a matter of protecting LPSG and its owner. If a member contacts a teen and something wrong happens, it should be that member in trouble with the law. Unless....LPSG is actively encouraging or helping that adult predator. That is when we as member and Rob E as owner may get into trouble with the law.

I do not beleive that minors belong here. Generally speaking, I beleive there are more youth-oriented forums where teens can talk about their sexual issues (for example http://teensexuality.student.com/ ) with people of the same age group.

However, if the board finds that minors do have a place here, I suggest that links be provided to professional, teen-targeted sites.

I think that teens need a place where they can get information and support from experienced adults, not other teens as that would promote a lot of myths, misbeliefs and stereotypes.
I think Mark had the right idea when he added the disclaimer page to the gallery entrance. The electronic signature pretty much covered his ass as far as the law was concerned. As for nudity in avatars, I don't like it, that's what the gallery is for. As has been stated in other posts, ANYONE can read the threads and view avatars without signing in.
I pretty much agree with what mfoley stated as for what teens should be allowed to access here (except the restriction on information exchange) and would go one further and suggest that teens post be marked in some fashion so everyone knows that they're a teen.

y'all should be weighing in on this thread too, since the owner and/or moderators are likely to prioritize their available time for the admin forums.

Obviously, Rob E. needs to cover his ass before the "Patriot Act" smut police come a calling. However, HOW DO YOU PROVE ANYONES AGE when they become a member? I think that banning teens throws the baby out with the bath water. Now, with the ban, teens have no reliable source for sex and relationship questions and problems.
Teens are not dumb (just often naive and misinformed). I'm pretty sure that the ones who really liked this site, will be back using their new fake ID. And I applaud that.
BANNING TEENAGERS IS A LOSS FOR EVERYONE.

edit.-I've changed my mind. The teens won't be back and half the adults will be volunteering to leave. It's really pathetic!

Watch it or I'm putting my ass back up...as an avatar you pervs!

preppy, just what is your fixation with my hairy ass?

Lex,

Chimes...cant agree.
Yes there are other fora to discuss teen sexuality but not support groups for those having or dealing with a Large Penis (LPSG) and it is here that younger developing teens get insight into issues they are facing and sort them out before they are made to feel self conscious and think they are freaks of nature.
I think a lot of really essential information is shared here.

That said I realize we need to protect the group from practices that could result in it being closed down. Let's consider both angles.

I'm open to any ideas, and I think we will eventually find something that works.

When I took over the admin of the forum there were threads with guys 13, 14 and 16 years old posting among photos of erect penises, and other members where talking about how they were masturbating to the young members. That is not support.

I have done, and will do, everything within reason to prevent children from viewing adult material.

BTW, I don't think a photo of a penis is considered porn. However, many of the photos here show erect penises and strong sexual content.

Anyway, the likely alternative for now is to make this place and adults only forum, and link to other teen oriented support sites, like:

http://www.teenwire.com/ http://www.teenhealthfx.com/answers/Sexuality/1025.html http://teenforums.student.com/ etc.

Let's keep the dialogue going, we'll find something that works.

Rob

As far as I understand the law, which might not be great, nudity is not porn but sexual contact is.

An effective way to cover our asses and yet keep our doors open to the minors that we all agree could use the support aspect is to restrict images of sexual contact to the gallery and post a page where one must agree by clicking that they are 18 years of age or more and therefore legal to view materials containing sexual content. I'd be happy to gank one from another site if you'd like so we could adjust it for use here.

I think the coversations here are usually far superior to the advice they might get from other sources.

Don't forget, team, that we often link to url's that a minor really shouldn't click on.

Do you propose that we post a warning with every embedded link and trust that no teens will peek?

*dramatically puts back of hand to forehead* Forsooth!

Any adult with a large penis was once a minor with a large penis. It seems counterproductive to exclude the sort of people which the group is meant to support. Assuming that the board title does indeed describe the purpose - reading some posts, I'm not at all sure.

But teens or no teens, it wouldn't hurt to clean up the avatars. Just because a guy is carrying a real log doesn't mean he can't have a little class too.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think info exchange should be limited in the way I said earlier.

As for the other fora, they all are for other perpouses, and LPSG just has something that they dont.

You can turn avatars off?
I think the cleaning up of the avatars is a very good idea. I don't want to see your log. If I did, I would venture into the gallery. There are plenty of good avatars outside of your dick. I had plenty! I still do.

Please Rob, I made some good friends here, and there are only a couple of years between us, and we are very much the same, but they got banned. Please consider what I wrote for rules, and what everyone else is posting for rules!!

I think we should make a formal list!

EVERYONE! WRITE DOWN/POST WHAT YOU THINK ARE GOOD RULES FOR MINORS!

Montey has a great point with the above statement. Even if all minors (I hate to say teen since 18-19 are legal) were banned, there's no "You must be 18 to enter this site" link that keeps minors who are guests from seeing nudity in the avatars.

Personally, I think that not only porn should be banned, but nudity as well. Isn't it against the law for minors to view nudity period even if it isn't porn? Playboy isn't porn (there's no sexual acts nor penetration) but yet you must be 18 to buy it.

Part of me says that teens should be allowed to say...but perhaps raise the age to 15/16 and above for maturity sake. I'm just guessing that if a teen truly needs large penis support, that's about the time in their life that they are starting to have issues with it. Of course I realize that I could be wrong.

I also agree that they should be banned from the gallery. Is there a way to make a "group" of their own and keep that group banned from even the 5 free views a day from the gallery? Then once they hit 18, they could be moved into the Member (or Gold Member) group and have those viewing pleasures again.

I think that you should add a category to member and gold member: minor. That way, you can restrict all minors and not have to worry about their maturity. Then they *cannot* access what you ban, because those are the *forum* rules. Not just one that is just told. It is strictly and forcefully enforced.