[quote author=tomarctus link=board=pe;num=1073540596;start=0#2 date=01/09/04 at 12:49:04]

"....For those who are serious about PE I believe one of the most important exercises needs to be learning to accept and love your body as it is. Yes, there is some reserve to tap in lengthening and especially thickening but it takes dedication, research and patience.
There are many resources available on the internet that are free of cost. The real cost is the investment of time..."

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tomarctus, now it's YOU who's coming across as "thoughtful". ;)

(btw-thanks for your kind words of support)

Your quote above kinda sums up the main question we guys who are pondering PE must really think-through.

I might only add that while accepting one's self (as he is now) is important, I think its' okay though, to think about (and imagine) a bit of self-improvement, too.

Setting REASONABLE goals is the crucial point, I believe on that. An inch (or two) in length is likely; 10 inches is not and provides cause for a good, hearty laugh, really.
Over time, girth can improve 1/2" to perhaps close to 1".

I like what you said about the "time" factor.
Beyond the physical time of doing PE, I recall how much "time" I spent on the net--- reading everything I could regarding the penis and how I might enlarge it. That was about three years ago, now. We've come along way on the net! Perhaps too far!

As a health clinic administrator, I review our e-mail. Last week, I received (UN-SOLICITED, I assure you, despite my own personal interest on the subject ;) ) a total of 58 e-mails over only TWO days! --of which 49 or 50 of them were "spam" about growing a bigger penis! Something is wrong to allow this "bombardment".
Obviously, PE is a "hot" topic and there are many gullible men (innocently so) biting the bait. It's a shame.

I hate that I take up all the conversations around here in this section on PE the way I do. But, I also hate what hype (and, excuse me, crap) exists on the internet trying to convince men they can get to 10 inches by next week. --NO way.

I only want to try to keep a semblance of reality here for guys sincerely wanting to improve themselves abit.
THAT'S why I pitch in my .02 cents.

I've had some success, but it didn't come all that easy.

I've stressed not every man will get the same results.
(He's likely to get some results, typically at least one inch.)

I've also noted a number of times, like with any other form of exercise and self-improving our bodies, there are risks involved. Very true. "Take it easy", I've said.

So, aside from cautioning men (yet, again) not to believe all the spam and and scam about wonder drugs, potions, pills, and gadgets, well, I don't know how to better cover the subject (more honestly) than I have.