Doubtless_Mouse: Actually this is a good question. I have been married for going on 11 years, and my wife tells me it has been hurting for 11 years. We have great sex, but almost always she hurts afterwards (rubbed raw). We too have tried lubes but it didn't help. I fit where I need to fit, but for some reason it hurts after the fact. I understand the mechanics of it, but haven't been able to figure out what to do. Any suggestions would be welcome here as well.