Problems with Gay guys

I agree that men - whether straight or gay - are just more aggressive in their pursuit of sex. I've been approached a lot more by gay men than by straight women. Usually a simple "no thanks, I don't play that way" suffices. Occasionally I joke or tease a little. Take it as a compliment.

I have never been in a situation where I felt threatened or harassed by the approach, and I suspect those situations are almost non existent in general. Straights being bullied/harassed for sex by gays? Urban myth.

Yeah, unfortunately, for many gay guys I know, it is true.

It has even gotten to the point where I have had to 86 certain gay acquaintances from my parties due to their acting rudely toward my straight friends - who, in general, have been part of my life for a lot longer than most of my gay friends have.

This behavior seems to have occurred most frequently in social situations where the gay folks are in the clear majority. Perhaps these insecure boors feel that turnabout is fair play? I disagree and have let them know it.

*I see gay people. They walk all around. But they don't even know they are gay...*

Haha. Just when this thread was getting fun, you people had to hijack it back to its inteded purpous!

Madame, with all due respect (which is a lot. where is that bizarre sucking sound that sounds like it is sucking up coming from? :D:D), I think plenty of people already do fear you! ;) But everyone (well, maybe not) likes a girl with a personality and a mind. I personally don't like these wallflower-ditz types. They have no opinions or wants. BOOORING!

I call the militia next!!! :D:D

If one reads posts made by young gay men on sites that cater to gays, you will see that they universally say that coming out is a liberating experience. It is simple to understand this if one considers the alternative. Should a gay guy keep his sexuality a secret and tolerate the homophobic comments of his family and friends? How does he explain to them why he does not have a girlfriend, why he does not date, and why he does not even notice a good looking female that his friends slobber over? Rather than suffer in silence, the alternative is to let them know that he is gay. Unfortunately, many straight people think that a gay guy who comes out is forcing his sexuality on them. This is just another form of homophobia in my opinion.

The vast majority of gay guys look and act like straight guys. For example, did anyone watch the reality show "Boy Meets Boy" where the gay guy could not tell that 8 of the 15 guys he was choosing from were straight? He was infuriated when this "secret" was divulged to him by the producers before the last program in the series.

I must confess that I personally do not understand why any gay guy would want to act effeminate or dress as a female. But there are straight men who do the same thing! To me sexuality cannot be absolutely defined. It is like a probability density function. There is a peak where the majority lie and tails on each side of the peak where people differ in opposite directions from the norm.

Dr. Rock (who actually gave the first response to this thread) really said it best. However, I will gladly add my 95 cents. As a gay man, it's so offensive to have some straight person complain about something so ridiculous. What you're really saying is that you're personally uncomfortable with gays and you wish we'd all just shut up about it and get back in the closet. Well too bad because it ain't happening. How in the world can you think for a minute that you heteros don't blab on and on about your own lives and sexual preferences: i.e. everything from the coworker who talks about what she and her HUSBAND took the kids the night before, to the guys in the gym talking about how much PUSSY they had or wish they had or are going to have, to the endless media (movies, magazines, commercials) that promote hetero love. Talk about shut up already. Yes, we march and we're loud and we're getting on your nerves and good. And we're going to continue.

And another thing, for anyone who's whining about gay men wanting to pick up straight men, how many straight guys do that to lesbians? For all the problems men (gay and straight) have caused in this world from raping, pillaging, wars and all the rest, you can't handle a little flirting? Guess what? Here's a news flash: If you're not gay, it doesn't matter? Ever heard the expression "you can't rape the willing?" Well you also can't kidnap a person who jumping in the car to go along for the ride. If you're not interested in men, kindly say that and be on your way. How many times do women have to find ways to get dumb ass men out of their faces when they really don't want to be bothered.

And that whole comment "Yes, Im fine with being narrow minded.. if it saves me from allowing my ass to go pounded," was completely unnecessary. I mean, really. I'm ready to give you more credit than that, but you've gotta work with me.

Good gods, your avatar is as hypnotic as amhersthungboi's.

Again why I love you, Madame Zora--you are clear and insigtful, and bring to view valid points wihtout being nasty about it. Ok--my two cents, for what it is worth:
1) He has tated he has a problem with gay guys--he doesn;t want to see them, know them, or know ABOUT them--he feels they don;t have a right to be here, or express opinions, images, etc. He feels like they should be hidden away, and not seen. If they make sure to keep their mouths shut, and not do faggy things, or stay in the closet and make DAMNED sure they don;t dare approach a real man, well, then they MAY be allowed to exist, but you reserve the right to rob them, beat them up, and kill them, preferably by shoving large iron spikes up their asses until they die. I think I get eh basic gist of your viewpoint, and I'm not going to try and change your mind. Have a nice life.
2) Yes, there ARE predatory gay men, as well as predatory straight men, who won't take no for an answer, and feel that they have the right to shove their dick in whoever or whatever they please, regardless of the recipients wishes. In my book those people are assholes, and deserve little consideration beyond a polite "fuck off, asshole". But that's my opinion. Sexuality has little to do with that. Personality id what dictates that
3) The question of "Why do gay people have to falunt their sexuality, and have pride marches, and wear those silly little rainbow flags, and..." Simple answer---to get noticed, to be recognized enough to be able to have the rights to live, and love, and exist as normal healthy, everyday people without fear of being shot, or arrested, or having to live a life that society says is the only correct one, because their personal religious bigotry said that they are right and everybody else is wrong. Is alot of pushiness annoying and distracting, and sometimes do more harm than good? Of course. So was the period when Rosa Parks refused to ride in the back of the bus, or they marched in Selma, despite the governors order to destroy anybody who dared speak up. In 1969, at the Stomewall bar in NYC, after having been routinely arrested and harrassed for years, in PRIVATE place, out of the public eye, not bothering anybody, but being arrested an harrased JUST because "we hate them faggots, and we are gonna shit on 'em" beahvior, ENCOURAGED by the citezenry and authorities of the time, the gay men and lesbians had enough, and rioted, and DEMANDE some level or human deceny. And thus was born the real gay movement to be recognized as EQUAL human beings. Change is never easy, pretty or peaceful. This has been true for the history of humanity, and I doubt iot ever will be different.
4) I personally consider my sexuality my business---if I have a need for you to know, I will tell you. If you have a need to know, then I will tell you. Otherwise, unless we are trying to get each other in bed, it should have no bearing on anything. When I worked in the main office in my previous job, some of the ladies were spreading rumors about the sexuality of one of my coworkers. I asked them why this was important. They asked me "Doesn;t it BOTHER you that he might be gay?" I replied" I'm not planning on having sex with him, so, no it makes absolutely no difference to me". That shut them up--and that is basically how I feel about MY professing my sexuality.

Ok--I'm sure I have offended, riled, whatever many here. Feel free to fold, staple, spindle and mutilate. I'm not saying I'm right, just how I feel.

Hear, hear!

The last two long posts were really good stuff to read, thanks for those. People still address the Original Poster but I think he got run off a while back. And that's good because now we can talk about things that I at least would never have bothered talking about with SL////twat around, he's not ready to hear an honest discussion.

For example, obviously most gay men completely understand that you have to respect people's, in this case straight guys', boundaries. Of course most of us understand that no means no. Duh! Having a gay guy cross the line and hit on you too hard is not the solitary burden of straight guys, it's happened to most gay men at one time or another too. Right?

The difference is because we're gay, we automatically get that it's not a 'gay thing'. Like MZ says, it's a man thing. So guys, straight and gay, let's cut the shit. If somebody says no, have enough respect for them as well as yourself to back off. I mean, how hard is that?!

SL/whatthefuck was too blind with fear and contempt to understand this, which is why he didn't notice that for the most part, gay & straight gays get along fine on this site imo. Quite a few straight guys here could have been great role models to him for how he could get along too ('Preciate you guys, btw, ). Too bad for him, we all make choices and live with them.