Brokeback Mountain

Lex · 12-12-2005

Interesting note about the movie:

The guys were filiming a kissing scene and Michelle Williams (plays Ennis' wife) stopped them and told them she wasn't feeling their kissing. She told Jake Gyllenhal that he need to kiss Heath Leadger like he was trying to steal her husband. Further, she asked them to walk around the set and randomly make out in order to surprise her and to help her keep the simmering anger and resentment required of her character. The guys agreed.

I am MORE than impressed by these guys. Will Smith had the opportunity to truly play a gay love interest in "Sex Degrees of Separation" and was counseled by many, including Denzel Washington, to NOT kiss another man onscreen for fear that it could ruin his career. Smith admitted a few years ago that he regretted not doing it, saying that a true actor gets totally into his role, especially given all the money they are paid and that it wouod have been a wonderful growth oppotunity for him.

Pecker · 12-12-2005

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... it wouod have been a wonderful growth oppotunity for him.

"Growth" indeed! :D

Lex · 12-12-2005

DIRTY OLD MAN!!!!

I KNEW there was a reason I LIKED YOU!!! :)

cricketsliar · 12-12-2005

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Originally Posted by Lex

Interesting note about the movie:

The guys were filiming a kissing scene and Michelle Williams (plays Ennis' wife) stopped them and told them she wasn't feeling their kissing. She told Jake Gyllenhal that he need to kiss Heath Leadger like he was trying to steal her husband. Further, she asked them to walk around the set and randomly make out in order to surprise her and to help her keep the simmering anger and resentment required of her character. The guys agreed.

I am MORE than impressed by these guys. Will Smith had the opportunity to truly play a gay love interest in "Sex Degrees of Separation" and was counseled by many, including Denzel Washington, to NOT kiss another man onscreen for fear that it could ruin his career. Smith admitted a few years ago that he regretted not doing it, saying that a true actor gets totally into his role, especially given all the money they are paid and that it wouod have been a wonderful growth oppotunity for him.

I agree with you Lex. Black/African-American actors tend to welcome playing crack heads, and prostitutes more readily than they do playing hardcore homosexuals. Some people might say, that actors like Isiah Washington have managed to play significant (Spike Lee's Get on The Bus) gay roles without it negatively impacting their careers. But I really have not seen layered intimacy, romance, studied interioirty in most Black/African-American actors portrayal-(everything is basically a limp wrist, and a Sissy snap). At any rate, I will be seeing the movie Friday evening, and hope it will be as good as people have made it out to be.

Peace

Lex · 12-12-2005

More of the actor's perspectives

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Both Gyllenhaal and Ledger were open about their willingness to play gay lovers Jack Twist (Gyllenhaal) and Ennis Del Mar (Ledger), cowboys who revisit their attraction over a period of twenty years as Twist becomes a known rodeo performer, and Del Mar remains a ranch hand.

Ledger told the BBC in March of last year: “What is it about wrangling Jake Gyllenhaal up in the mountains that frightens me? Just that! But it obviously doesn't scare me away because I'm doing it. Aren't we at the stage these days when it just doesn't ******* matter? It's a story of love and it's a story between two people. If people can't get over that and just accept it as a story, then that's their problem. I'm big enough and brave enough to do it."

Gyllenhaal’s take on Brokeback’s romantic element was a bit more personal. “It’s about how impossible love can be sometimes and I can relate to that," he told Canada's Calgary Sun. "I grew up in a family where many of our close friends were gay couples. As well as that, every man goes through a period of thinking they’re attracted to another guy.”

Gyllenhaal was quoted saying that Ledger nearly broke his nose while filming a kissing scene"He grabs me and he slams me up against the wall and kisses me. And then I grab him and I slam him up against the wall and I kiss him. And we were doing take after take after take. I got the shit beat out of me.”

Despite its rich landscapes and explosive subject, ''Brokeback Mountain" is an intimate film, with few characters, sparse dialogue, and a focus on interior emotions. That's what attracted Ledger to the role of Ennis Del Mar, the taciturn ranch hand whose struggle to balance love and social obligation is at the movie's core.

''I never personally felt like I had a career at risk," Ledger says. ''If anything, it felt like an opportunity for me to mature as a person and as an actor, which is what I'd kind of been looking for."

And of shooting sex scenes with costar Jake Gyllenhaal -- the most striking one, violent and unflinching, was filmed in one morning, in 13 takes -- Ledger is almost perfunctory.
''I hate to break it to you, but it really wasn't [difficult]," Ledger says. ''Once you do the first take, you're kind of over it."

I am very excited to see this.

HungSpermBoy · 12-12-2005

I brought up this topic b/c I found my own response to the film interesting. I had a hard time watching the guys feel all bad about their relationship, but I thought it was cool how affectionate they were with each other. It was pretty mellow actually. My girlfriend thought that the sex/love scenes were sexy. I think I felt a little uncomfortable with some of it. I just always feel sad that guys in our American culture have a hard time caring about each other, so for me seeing that portrayed was the best part.

caneadea · 12-12-2005

[quote=HungSpermBoy]I brought up this topic b/c I found my own response to the film interesting. I had a hard time watching the guys feel all bad about their relationship, but I thought it was cool how affectionate they were with each other. It was pretty mellow actually. My girlfriend thought that the sex/love scenes were sexy. I think I felt a little uncomfortable with some of it. I just always feel sad that guys in our American culture have a hard time caring about each other, so for me seeing that portrayed was the best part.[/quote
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WOW!
HungSpermBoy.
It is so refreshing to hear such common sense from a young man.
I have renewed hope for our future!:)

GoneA · 12-14-2005

i finally read the overview for this movie ... it may be worth the time and effort.

KinkGuy · 12-15-2005

Apparently, those of us here in the "hinter lands" won't get the opportunity to view this shocking love story for another 6-8 weeks. Guess they think we aren't sophisticated enough. <grumble>

Edit: Very intelligent and sensitive view of the world, HungSpermBoy.

HungSpermBoy · 12-16-2005

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Apparently, those of us here in the "hinter lands" won't get the opportunity to view this shocking love story for another 6-8 weeks. Guess they think we aren't sophisticated enough. <grumble>

Edit: Very intelligent and sensitive view of the world, HungSpermBoy.

Thanx for the comps, guys. I have to say that this film really has stayed with me. It's so incredibly sad to me that two people can't just love each other, especially how in the case of the men in the film they could see no way to be together. It reminded me of how limiting our culture is in so many ways compared to other countries. And on top of it, how the guys themselves couldn't be vulnerable enough to each other to allow their love to develop. I guess it's actually a classic romance story, but with a certain twist. My girlfriend sobbed through the last 20 minutes & I found myself tearing up too. Wow.

GoneA · 12-17-2005

i recant my statement.

Lex · 12-17-2005

You didn't like it?

DawsonsFreak2 · 12-17-2005

Im just waiting for the Porn Version; Bareback Mountian

you know its coming !

GoneA · 12-18-2005

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You didn't like it?

well, no ... but i heard it was horrible ... from trustworthy people. at least what i consider "trustworthy".

IanTheTall · 12-18-2005

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Originally Posted by KinkGuy

Apparently, those of us here in the "hinter lands" won't get the opportunity to view this shocking love story for another 6-8 weeks. Guess they think we aren't sophisticated enough. <grumble>

It's because of Oscar that we don't get to se it yet. A movie needs to be in a certain number of theaters, prior to January 1st for consideration. Since the majority of the Academy's members live in coastal cities and Chicago, that is where it is being shown first.

Brokeback Mountain

Interesting note about the movie: The guys were filiming a kissing scene and Michelle Williams (plays Ennis' wife) stopped them and told them she wasn't feeling their kissing. She told Jake Gyllenhal that he need