10-04-2005
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#31 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by Dr Rock+Oct 5 2005, 03:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock @ Oct 5 2005, 03:03 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-GoneA@Oct 4 2005, 11:26 PM It is quite sacrilegious to affront/slight, Christians, Buddhist, Muslims, Taoist or any persons in a religious office. | oh well then, tough shit. they'll just have to deal with it. [/b][/quote]
I agree, let me tell you. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#32 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by Dr Rock@Oct 4 2005, 10:03 PM oh well then, tough shit. they'll just have to deal with it. | As much as a homosexual, like you, should just "have to deal" with intolerance? | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#33 (permalink)
| | | Uhhh, I'm leaving the room for a smoke...I'll be back when then can of worms are closed. :smoke: | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#34 (permalink)
| | | Sacrilegous basically means showing irreverence for something sacred, but if I'm not of that particular religion, it's not sacred to me. I mean, it's cool that you get your own groovy little word to protect your particular interest, homosexuals have "homophobe" too.
I'm so sick of little ego-shattered cretins running the world. Grow some balls, no one owes it to you to tiptoe around your religious mythologies even if YOU think they do.
Hey, if you practised some of the good ideas in the good book instead of using your religion to put yourself on a pedastal above your fellow man, you just might not ilicit the same responses as you are getting now. Just a thought. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#35 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by GoneA+Oct 5 2005, 01:37 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GoneA @ Oct 5 2005, 01:37 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jay_too@Oct 5 2005, 12:54 AM sacrilegious adj. 1. Disrespectful toward something sacred:PROFANE 2. Guilty of sacrilege.
I doubt that sacrilegious was the appropriate word since Christians tend to be mortal and not part of the diety. |
The complete definition encompasses people as well. [/b][/quote]
I have Webster's II, and that is the complete definition I have. For the record:
Sacrilege- desecration, profanation or theft of something sacred.
If you are asserting that the popularised meaning encompasses people, I won't argue that. I will state simply that I do not consider a person sacred just because they profess to follow a certain faith.
If I am not unrinating on the Bible or stealing the communion warfers from the church, I don't see how I am committing sacrilege, not that it would bother me if I did. This is another case, to me, of pseudo-Christians trying to cast a shadow over anyone not conforming to their views. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#36 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by SUMYUNGUY+Oct 3 2005, 12:25 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SUMYUNGUY @ Oct 3 2005, 12:25 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why is it that the left holds so dear to them not offending any group, save for the Christians?
... seems to have a double set of standards. No respect for those with a moral guideline, yet total reverence for anyone outside that group with other ideas? ...
Is it hypocrisy of falsely perceived hypocrisy? [/b] |
I would vote for "falsely perceived hypocrisy." Quote:
Originally posted by jay_too@Oct 4 2005, 03:04 PM
What is the sacrilege in offending Christians? I have known some pretty offensive bible spouters; whether or not they are Christian is another matter.
jay | Quote:
Originally posted by SUMYUNGUY@Oct 4 2005, 03:31 PM Not trying to be sarcastic, but you may want to try looking up the meaning of the word. | Quote:
Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 4 2005, 04:59 PM Quote:
Originally posted by SUMYUNGUY@Oct 4 2005, 03:31 PM Not trying to be sarcastic, but you may want to try looking up the meaning of the word. | Uh, perhaps he was making a distinction between "professed christian" and "practicing christian." If I claim to be a "born-again christian," but promulgate hatred and malcontent, is that truly being a christian? Fred Phelps claims to be a heaven-bound christian, with a frighteningly large following, but with his ACTIVE promotion of EXTERMINATION of a SIGNIFICANT segment of our planet's population, is he TRULY a CHRISTIAN? | Quote:
Originally posted by SUMYUNGUY@Oct 4 2005, 05:06 PM Irrelevant to the topic. | Lexically, perhaps. But not within the contextual parameters you set up in the first sentence of your original post. Quote:
Originally posted by SUMYUNGUY@Oct 4 2005, 05:50 PM ...No, not Christian. Sacrilegious. | <!--QuoteBegin-SUMYUNGUY@Oct 4 2005, 05:50 PM As much as a homosexual, like you, should just "have to deal" with intolerance? [/quote]
By your definition, this could also be sacrilegious. And you don't see any hypocrisy there, do you? | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#37 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by SUMYUNGUY+Oct 5 2005, 05:22 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SUMYUNGUY @ Oct 5 2005, 05:22 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Dr Rock@Oct 4 2005, 10:03 PM oh well then, tough shit. they'll just have to deal with it. | As much as a homosexual, like you, should just "have to deal" with intolerance? [/b][/quote]
clue time: i'm not a "homosexual"
as for "intolerance", i couldn't give a shit whether some nobody wants to "tolerate" me or not. I'm already here; if idiots wanna twist their panties over what i do in my free time, that's their problem. ain't nothing they can do about it that i'm not ready for. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#38 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by Dr Rock+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-SUMYUNGUY
As much as a homosexual, like you, should just "have to deal" with intolerance? | clue time: i'm not a "homosexual"
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Let's define what it means to be a homosexual. I'll set the official boundaries right now. If the mere thought of another man's penis or anus doesn't make you want to vomit, you're a homosexual. Copyright 2005 by SUMYUNGUY. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#39 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by Dr. Dilznick@Oct 5 2005, 08:56 AM Let's define what it means to be a homosexual. I'll set the official boundaries right now. If the mere thought of another man's penis or anus doesn't make you want to vomit, you're a homosexual. | So, do you go to a homosexual doctor? Or does your doctor vomit on you when you are having a physical?
And is the converse true? The thought of a woman's vagina does not make me want to puke. Does that make me heterosexual? | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#40 (permalink)
| | | I can see it now.
Lockerrooms and gang showers all over the world, knee deep in vomit. :icon_redface: | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#41 (permalink)
| | | How does golden rule fit into this discussion, SUMYUNGUY?
Would it be sacrilegious for me to say "I will allow you to worship as you choose, if you allow me not to worship."
Or how about "I agree not to try to script your private life, if you agree not to try to script mine."
Or "I won't call you a hypocrite if you won't call me sacrilegious."
Or my favorite, "I will extend to you exactly the same respect you extend to me."
Is it sacrilegious for me to call fred phelps a false prophet? Are reactions against any religion sacrilegious, or only reactions against christianity? | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#42 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by DC_DEEP So, do you go to a homosexual doctor? Or does your doctor vomit on you when you are having a physical? | Better yet, my doctor's a she.
What I wrote is gospel. It's the light at the end of the tunnel, the fabric of the cosmos. Treat it as such. (If you couldn't tell, I was being facetious with that post. The part you edited out "kind of" gave it away). | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#43 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 5 2005, 01:47 PM How does golden rule fit into this discussion, SUMYUNGUY?
Would it be sacrilegious for me to say "I will allow you to worship as you choose, if you allow me not to worship." |
You see, this is what keeps getting missed, and even I have not been good about isolating it. The neocon movement seeks to ERRADICATE MY FREEDOM TO BELIEVE AS I CHOOSE. There is no way I can or will be polite about that! There's no reason why I should. ANYONE would be deeply offended by that. Even Chimera knows he is insulting anyone not white with his posts, why don't the Christians have as much tact as that?
Note to "Christians"- if you'd live your OWN life by your beliefs and STAY THE FUCK OUT OF OTHER'S, there'd be no problem. The problems arise, by your own doing, when you try to stick yourself where you don't belong, like up my ass!
True Christians follow the advice "see first that your OWN house is in order". No one's house is completely in order, it takes a lifetime to work on, that's enough to keep all of us busy.
For the record, busybodies are NOT holy, therefore it is not sacrilegous to insult them. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#44 (permalink)
| | | Quote: | Originally posted by DC_DEEP+Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DC_DEEP @ Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>How does golden rule fit into this discussion, SUMYUNGUY?[/b] |
Would this be a multiple choice answer? Quote:
Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM Would it be sacrilegious for me to say "I will allow you to worship as you choose, if you allow me not to worship." | No Quote:
Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM Or how about "I agree not to try to script your private life, if you agree not to try to script mine." | No Quote:
Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM Or "I won't call you a hypocrite if you won't call me sacrilegious." | No Quote:
Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM Or my favorite, "I will extend to you exactly the same respect you extend to me." | No
<!--QuoteBegin-DC_DEEP@Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM Is it sacrilegious for me to call fred phelps a false prophet? Are reactions against any religion sacrilegious, or only reactions against christianity? [/quote]
Thats a tough question, about Phelps. Simply calling him a false prophet? I'd say not. Phelps, though, could be seen as sacrilegious I suppose. | | | |
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10-05-2005
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#45 (permalink)
| | | Quote: | Originally posted by madame_zora+Oct 5 2005, 09:07 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora @ Oct 5 2005, 09:07 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>You see, this is what keeps getting missed, and even I have not been godd about isolating it. The neocon movement seeks to ERRADICATE MY FREEDOM TO BELIEVE AS I CHOOSE.[/b] |
How so? Please give specific examples, if possible... Quote:
Originally posted by madame_zora@Oct 5 2005, 09:07 AM Note to "Christians"- if you'd live your OWN life by your beliefs and STAY THE FUCK OUT OF OTHER'S, there'd be no problem. The problems arise, by your own doing, when you try to stick yourself where you don't belong, like up my ass! | I don't agree with that statement at all, other than the fact that Christians don't belong in your ass.
<!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Oct 5 2005, 09:07 AM For the record, busybodies are NOT holy, therefore it is not sacrilegous to insult them. [/quote]
If you say so. | | | |
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