09-27-2005
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#46 (permalink)
| | | As far as I can tell, I'm not from Africa. Perhaps some section of my DNA can make its way back through time to that location. If you're a Creationist, then we're all just committing incest anyway since we all link back to Adam and Eve. (Eve gave me the good hair, y'know. Pfffbt.) (And yeah, that Creation thing was just a joke...)
I'm not even all that in love with the word "black" either since I'm kinda brownish... and for a long, long time, I just kept marking black as my race because people were more like to see me as a black person than a white person no matter how "blended" my features. It was simple that way. But I like being two kinds, so I always mark Other or specify Biracial.
Black and white.
Like a chess pie.
Or an Oreo cookie. | | | |
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09-27-2005
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#47 (permalink)
| | Banned | Quote: Originally posted by DanielForever@Sep 27 2005, 06:23 AM if your from west asia your 'arab' | Oh? Look at a map of western Asia. Try telling an Israeli, an Armenian, a Georgian, An Iranian or a Turk that he's an Arab ... and see what reponse you get! | | | |
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09-27-2005
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#48 (permalink)
| | | Quote: Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Sep 27 2005, 04:01 AM Regarding the old-fashioned Negroid/Mongoloid/Caucasoid designations... perhaps some people who appear to have descended from a garden flower should be referred to as "Asteroid." | -oids are stupid terms. Most people worldwide really don't fall into racial types like that. | | | |
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09-28-2005
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#50 (permalink)
| | Banned | Quote: Originally posted by jay_too@Sep 27 2005, 03:09 AM In high school, my friends were Black. Then, I was in Atlanta for the Olympics and was hanging with a Black guy...."Puleeze, it is African American. Is my skin black?" I went away to Cornell and either seemed to be acceptable.
When I came out to Stanford, the guy in the apartment next door told me that he preferred "person of color." OK. So I start using person of color until a couple of guyz told me that they were Black and asked me if they looked like Indians? When I asked about African American as a descriptor, they asked, "Do you refer to yourself as English American?"
jay | I have always thought that I understood the usage of "person of color" to be a oppositional negative in racial catergorizations during Colonialism. I thought that "person of color" was historically used to delineate those not "White", and therefore not sharing in political, social, or economic power. Now I understand that some people say "person of color" as a term of racial inclusivity to describe any individual or group not considered "White". But isn't this still an oppositional negative, since we would never refer to "Whites" as "person lacking color". It just bothers me a little. | | | |
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09-28-2005
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#51 (permalink)
| | Banned | Quote: Originally posted by jay_too@Sep 27 2005, 03:09 AM In high school, my friends were Black. Then, I was in Atlanta for the Olympics and was hanging with a Black guy...."Puleeze, it is African American. Is my skin black?" I went away to Cornell and either seemed to be acceptable.
When I came out to Stanford, the guy in the apartment next door told me that he preferred "person of color." OK. So I start using person of color until a couple of guyz told me that they were Black and asked me if they looked like Indians? When I asked about African American as a descriptor, they asked, "Do you refer to yourself as English American?"
jay | Do you refer to yourself as an English American? I have'nt heard anyone ever refer to themselves that way. I have heard some Black Americans say that they are not African-American, because they emigrated from Haiti, Panama,Jamaica, and or Belize. | | | |
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09-28-2005
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#52 (permalink)
| | | I have a different view of this whole thing. I don't use either black or white. My partner and I have two sons we adopted when their mother passed away. They were the two youngest of 5 brothers. The family "took" who they wanted and nobody wanted the babies. Their mother was besides being our housekeeper a very dear friend. We raised these boys from diapers. In our house there was no color. They have called each other 'niggar' but just out of earshot of us.
They both were raised colorblind and don't abide with any of the names or slurs. Both have caucasian wives and have presented us with grandchildren that I'm sure will be raised the same as they were.
When they were in high school they told me I was blacker than them... hmmm what do you suppose that meant?? | | | |
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09-28-2005
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#53 (permalink)
| | Banned | Quote: Originally posted by arktrucker@Sep 28 2005, 11:17 PM I have a different view of this whole thing. I don't use either black or white. My partner and I have two sons we adopted when their mother passed away. They were the two youngest of 5 brothers. The family "took" who they wanted and nobody wanted the babies. Their mother was besides being our housekeeper a very dear friend. We raised these boys from diapers. In our house there was no color. They have called each other 'niggar' but just out of earshot of us.
They both were raised colorblind and don't abide with any of the names or slurs. Both have caucasian wives and have presented us with grandchildren that I'm sure will be raised the same as they were.
When they were in high school they told me I was blacker than them... hmmm what do you suppose that meant?? | Because of their age I would'nt read that much into it. But I am curious what you consider color blind child rearing? Would it be wrong to assume that you are also raising them to be Culturally Literate, and Culturally Aware. Are you teaching them that not all people have been raised color blind, and that COLOR BLIND people should HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE RACISM. | | | |
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