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Originally posted by madame_zora @Oct 3 2005, 05:11 PM Oh, I'd be the last one to say that people shouldn't make the best of their situation, we agree there. There are many "diseases" that people

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Old 10-03-2005   #76 (permalink)
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Originally posted by madame_zora@Oct 3 2005, 05:11 PM
Oh, I'd be the last one to say that people shouldn't make the best of their situation, we agree there.

There are many "diseases" that people have some input into contracting, that doesn't (in my opinion) negate their being deserving of help. If a smoker gets cancer, he still needs medical treatment. If a person eats poorly their whole life and gets diabetes, they still need help. Some of these illnesses are somewhat hereditary, so if they are born with a predisposition to them, they have less influence on whether they will contract that disease than the average person. Such is true of addiction. Those who have a genetic predisposition are far more likely to become addicted to a substance than those who are not. Do we really believe that ANYONE would choose that? People don't, nay CAN'T "become" an alcoholic. They can drink too much, sure. They can have car wrecks from driving drunk, but the actual disease is a low seretonin level, which is the same issue primarily with clinical depression. How can someone choose where their seretonin level is? Yes, such a person could choose to never drink or use chemicals, but chances are they don't know this about themselves until AFTER they have already begun using, following their natural urges to correct the imbalance.

Everything that Jana said is true.

It saddens me that we have a poster with no compassion. Not only that, but the posts seem to be filled with an hate filled spirit. There is a quote that says, "There I go except by the grace of God." It simply means that just one little turn in our lives it could be "us" instead of "them" that could be in that "ditch" overdosed.

The earlier post that said, and I am paraprhasing here, that only the ones that were born with aids or got aids innocently were deserving of medical help. That is tantamount to "murder" in our souls.

I know that many here are not Christians and aren't sympathetic toward the Christian religion. But for those who are Christians or who are sympathic toward the Christian reliigion, Jesus said, "If you have done it to the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me." So to hate aids victims who are destitute and dying is to hate Jesus, and to Christians to hate God himself.

I am not going to pass judgement another person's soul. To pass judgement means to sentence a person for what they have done wrong. I have no desire to be in the sentencing business and it is not my job to do so. But I will tell what Jesus said. As a practicing Christian, Jesus's words are at the center of what I believe.
 
Old 10-04-2005   #77 (permalink)
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Probably wish they were at the centre of a few more. Anyway, Smoking's the most addictive drug there is and most people "addicted" pay huge taxes and don't live long enough to get any benefit from pension schemes.

Now if only they could market coke like that, there'd be no problem.*

*Cynicalism detected.
 
Old 10-04-2005   #78 (permalink)
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Originally posted by ORCABOMBER@Oct 4 2005, 01:15 PM
Probably wish they were at the centre of a few more. Anyway, Smoking's the most addictive drug there is and most people "addicted" pay huge taxes and don't live long enough to get any benefit from pension schemes.

Now if only they could market coke like that, there'd be no problem.*

*Cynicalism detected.

I tried snorting Coke but the carbonation tickled my nose.
 
Old 10-05-2005   #79 (permalink)
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Well, I do wonder if that's all that is in Cola. Gotta love Phosphoric acid though.
 

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