Spain Legalizes Same-Sex Marriages

I predict that we'll legalize gay marriages just after Saudi Arabia does, and just before Bhutan. :angry:

where the government is involved, I don't see the difference.

Well the problem is that the government can't keep it's greedy little paws out of anything, and much that could be good is turned sour. An agreement between people to share time together should not need the endorsement of a government agency and in fact does not, so what is being argued for is the host of "priveledges" that the government grants to certain kinds of married couples but denies to others. This is an obivous limitation of freedoms, do it our way or you will have less rights granted to you than other people. It's bullshit, but we have a long history of that. It just gets discouraging when an issue that is an obvious human rights issue comes this close to the surface only to be struck down. We learn nothing, we don't grow as a society. The filthiest and vilest from amoung us feel vindicated and we now hear things out in the open about "fuckin' faggits thought they were gonna git their way" and the stupid and the grotesque rise to the top, just like the haters of blacks did at one time. Haters of anyone are always wrong and they always get demolished eventually, but we just can't get beyond the point where we have to tear our society apart first before good can conquer. THAT'S because stupidity is so strong, and well funded. Nevertheless, the hypo-christians and the faggot haters will fall eventually, hopefully because the rest of the world will lead the way. We are going to lose more than our money through this administration, we are going to lose whatever good name we once had.

Future tense? How about "we have lost"................

I predict that we'll legalize gay marriages just after Saudi Arabia does, and just before Bhutan. :angry:
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Actually, most teens and twentysomethings are in favor of same-sex marriages.

Actually, most teens and twentysomethings are in favor of same-sex marriages.
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Yeah, it was the younger set who told the old fogies to bite one in Spain.

Yeah, it was the younger set who told the old fogies to bite one in Spain.
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Once again, the America puibic is being sold a bill of goods. Bush is on record as in favor of marrige between a man and a woman. He is also in favor of civil unions with all the same legal rights and prevledges as married people. So, if that be the case, it comes to samantics, marriage between man and woman; civil union between two people of the same gender. However, Bush can spout off all this amendment stuff knowing it isn't going to happen.

It takes a 2/3 majority in both houses to propose a constitution amendment and then 3/4 of the states must ratify it. Bush knows that there will never be a marriage amendment so he can go and off and spout all he wants to. It is relatively safe politically. No marriage amendment will meets those strict guidelines. Meanwhile, I believe gay and lesbian couuples will eventually be given civil unions with all the rights and privledges of marriage. It will take several years, but I believe it will happen.

Let's hope that same-sex marriage in America doesn't go the same way as gays in the military, the death penalty, and even the metric system!

It's interesting that the rest of the world seems to handle change better than we do.

hehe.. filipinoes resist change too...

Dr. Rock is right, but Spain's small step is a step in the right direction. At least Dub'ya had no opportunity to call for a constitutional amendment to outlaw it.

hehe.. filipinoes resist change too...
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Which is why if you're ever in Manila, you shouldn't bring E to the party. (Sorry, but some grammar flames make themselves too easy.)

Which is why if you're ever in Manila, you shouldn't bring E to the party. (Sorry, but some grammar flames make themselves too easy.)
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exactly... :P

:) for all you who dont live in CA, we are close to getting the state legislature to passing a bill to legalize gay/lesbian marriage. The governor, Arnold, is in such a weakened position politically, that he may feel it necessary to sign the bill into law if his poll numbers dont improve. CA continues to have to lead most of the rest of the U.S. into the 21st century.....

I thought, if passed it was a "civil unions" law and very specifically worded to NOT be a "marriage" bill? What rights, under the law, might be guaranteed and denied? And Ahhhnorld, will vote which ever way the wind blows, won't he? But I hope and pray that CA passes even a modified rights bill.