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Hapi Papi: *off topic* BRMSTN69, how dare you insult shotgun houses. As a former historic preservation major and lover of architecture and the like, I'm offended! You could have said inner city, even though they

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Old 06-16-2004   #31 (permalink)
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Hapi Papi: *off topic*

BRMSTN69, how dare you insult shotgun houses. As a former historic preservation major and lover of architecture and the like, I'm offended! You could have said inner city, even though they can be in the counties too, but to say they're in slums... :angry:
 
Old 06-17-2004   #32 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Hapi Papi@Jun 17 2004, 03:39 AM
You could have said inner city, even though they can be in the counties too, but to say they're in slums...
Sorry, Cameron, but I've got to agree with BRMSTN69 here. He said, 'usually [not always] in inner cities and slums', and true enough, they usually are. In fact, they are more often referred to as 'shotgun shacks' rather than 'houses'. Every example I've ever seen was in the 'low' side of town. They are usually in poor repair, and often look as though a strong wind could knock them over. Shotgun houses were cheaper to build, and most of those who owned them did so because they couldn't afford better. Not insults aimed at shotgun houses, but honest observations.
 
Old 06-17-2004   #33 (permalink)
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To add to what DMW siad, the development of the shotgun style of housing had to do with common city zoning practices in former times. City blocks were generally quite deep, because they were designed to hold commercial properties. In order to provide building lots of small, and thus affordable, area, it was common for cities to designate parcels which were only about 20 feet wide, but quite deep. This typically happended when low cost housing was needed near commercial properties, such as factories. As such, these tended to be the less affluent parts of town, and were often the areas hit worst by urban blight as manufacturing in urban centers declined.

About the only reasonable floor plan that works in a 20 foot wide house is the shotgun layout. Sometimes a narrow hall was placed along one side in such narrow houses, but this resulted in rather cramped rooms, and it was difficult to move in furniture, etc, so the shotgun style was preferred.

This type of construction was abandoned years ago. As time went on, rather than developing individual 20 foot wide buildings, developers began to construct larger apartment houses spanning several lots. The wider building allowed for much better floorplans, even though the area of the individual units may have been about the same as under the old plan.

For these reasons, houses with shotgun layouts are typically found in less properous areas, often subject to decline in modern times, and tend to be quite old. Although vast numbers of such houses were built in these areas, there are some exceptions. Sometimes this construction was used when small but luxurious houses were built in very expensive parts of the city. But, this was rare, due to the obvious disadvantges of the floorplan. In those cases, it was more common to build multiple floors, with just one or two rooms on each.
 
Old 06-17-2004   #34 (permalink)
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BRMSTN69: I ment no insult, but quite frankly I grew up in the slums of our town and I've earned the right to refer to them as such. I work a shitty factory job that I fucking hate 10hrs a day,support a disabled mother and I'm trying to pay for a big fancy victorion in the historical district, but I NEVER forget where I came from and never can, I've spent the last 15yrs crawling out of it!!!
 
Old 06-17-2004   #35 (permalink)
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BRMSTN69: I ment no insult but, growing up in the slums of our town I've earned the right to refer to them as such,I work 10 hrs a day in a shitty factory job that I fucking HATE to support a disabled mother and pay for (and restore) a big victorian house in the HISTORICAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT but I NEVER forget where I came from and make no bones about it , it's what made me who i am today.
 
Old 06-17-2004   #36 (permalink)
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BRMSTN69: sorry about the double post, not sure what happened it didn't showup at first
 
Old 06-17-2004   #37 (permalink)
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rainsfletcher: Back on topic, here, I'm not sure my parents ever had sex -- at least not after my little brother was born. I never even suspected them of having sex. They had the door open to their room, even into my high-school years. I'd come home at 2:00am, sneak in and walk past their room -- nothing, didn't even face each other. Very strange. I never even really saw them kiss to be honest, not more than just a peck and even that was very rare.
 
Old 06-17-2004   #38 (permalink)
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Footlong, I am delighted by your relationship with your mother!! I am very sorry if something I said led you to believe otherwise. The two of you are an inspiration to us all. I have a very open relationship with my daughter as well, as you and I have shared, but it did not include MY sexuality, which was what was comfortable for us. I was referring in my post to a converstion Lovegirl and I had had before about things you DON'T want to hear or see your parents do that were not in the context of a loving relationship. I would never compare that to the wonderful relationship you share with Lindsey!

Rains, it was rare for me to see my parents even give a peck on the cheek, nor did they ever talk about ANYTHING personal around me, so imagine my surprise when one day I was stealing socks out of my step dads drawer (too lazy to do my own laundry!) and I found nude polaroids of my mother, then about 7 mos pregnant with my sister, standing in front of the fireplace with nothing on but a cheesy grin! I never mentioned a thing about it to her, even years later when I was married and it was then okay to discuss sex isuues with me.
 
Old 06-19-2004   #39 (permalink)
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Aww Thanks madame_zora
 
Old 06-19-2004   #40 (permalink)
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big squirt: On topic: I heard my parents having sex often and interupted them on occasion when I was a kid. As I have posted before, my Dad was very endowed and often there were cries of "STOP" or "NOT SO HARD" ringing throughout the house.

Off topic: My wife and I had a house in San Francisco in the 70's that was a shotgun house... aka ... railroad house. The front stair and hallway were on the right and went mid-way then zigged and went down the middle... The house was $75,000 in 1973. Now at least ten times that and probably more toward a million as there are few houses in that now affluent neighborhood.
We left in 1977.... :(
Squirt
 
Old 07-08-2004   #41 (permalink)
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TooDamnBig:
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Originally posted by doug2003@Jun 15 2004, 12:03 AM
as gross as it may sound has anyone here ever head their parents having sex while growing up?whether it was moaning or hearing the bed squeak?
Yes.

My when I was about 13, my bedroom became the one next to my parents'. I remember waking up one night to hearinhg what at first sounded like my mom crying. As I listened for a moment, I soon figured out that it was moaning. And then noticed the rhythmic bed motion too -- as it became more pronounced.

Four a couple years, it was kinda regular to hear them fucking. About 15 minutes or so of actual fucking -- hard to hear/tell what the foreplay was.
 
Old 07-08-2004   #42 (permalink)
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like some others have said, I grew up in a household where sex is not welcome in any conversation ><

I do remember hearing my Mom moan & cry at times when I was young. I know I said to Dad once that he should stop hurting her, lol.
 
Old 07-08-2004   #43 (permalink)
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TooDamnBig:
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Originally posted by RoysToy@Jun 15 2004, 02:46 AM
This one time really petrified me during the whole thing and I remember finding it even hard to breath. .
In what way did it petrify you? (How old were you?)
 
Old 08-04-2004   #44 (permalink)
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suaige: Shot gun houses sound like most old apartment complexes in Hong Kong, Though I tended to think of them more as prison blocks, they have industrial quality screen doors.

While I never say my parents having sex, I was seen once. When my daughter was quite young, we were having sex one morning and she woke up and was really being discooperative. We went and got her laid her on our bed hoping she would be there and just be there. We continued on, already both butt naked and I was partially on top of her, still in foreplay. I looked back to see what my daughter was doing she had rolled over and just able to hold up her head (so probably a fair bit less than 1) she was staring at us. A few more seconds and then I couldn't take it any more. She was back in the crib and fortunately cooperative.

I don't recommend the experience. Having your child watch you even at that young of an age - theres just something wrong with it. Never did it again.
 
Old 11-05-2006   #45 (permalink)
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Yes. As a child I slept in my parents room until I was 6 years old, and they made love as usual without caring if I was already able to understand what they were doing (we lived in a farm and there you grow up seeing animals fuck all the time, so you learn pretty soon what sex is about, and you don't need your parents to explain anything to you to accept sex as the most natural thing). So I could watch how my parents fucked (and they fucked almost every day). Dad fucked pretty slow and gentle (maybe because he's got a huge cockhead and he had to be gentle, at least at the beginning of the fucking) and he didn't say a word, he only moaned low with open mouth and had his eyes shut. You could tell he was enjoying it a lot! Once my mom realized I was watching, but she didn't care at all, she even laughed and told dad that I was watching. He didn't care either, he only looked at me a moment and then kept on with his gentle thrusting in mom's cunt. So I learned to accept my parents sex life as the most natural thing in the world, and I've learned to accept my own sexuality as something fully natural too, and I intend to enjoy my sex life at least as much as my parents did.
 

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