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Old 05-15-2008   #242 (permalink)
senor rubirosa
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You believe that Canada has moral authority over America. I do not believe one civilized country has moral authority over another.
Dong never said that.

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In our overarching Western culture, the moral acceptability of capital punishment is not yet decided, while that of bigotry has been.
There's a near consensus on capital punishment. The U.S.'s use of capital punishment is often held up as one element of a list that suggests the country is not very civilized.
As you know, many Americans agree.

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Our disagreement is that you feel your nation has moral authority over other countries. I disagree. I do not believe my morality is or should be enforced on others when it comes to many issues.
Dong, who is Brit and not Canadian, is not saying his nation has moral authority over other countries. In saying that Canada is within its rights not to extradite someone to a country that would put him/her to death, he is accepting Canada's right to claim moral authority over its own extradition process.

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I do not think it is within the rights of one country to force its morality on another in regards to capital punishment of a murderer.
And that, I presume, is why the U.S. doesn't complain too much when Canada acts as it does.

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That said, you do agree with the Canadian government holding this man until the American government agrees to terms regarding his potential penalty for his possible crime. I do not believe you are versed enough in international law to actually know whether what Canada is doing is legal. Nor am I.
This has been done for a number of years without, to my knowledge, any objection made under international law.