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Originally Posted by Tardis 69 WOW!!! DC_DEEP, looking at your replies to quite a few people on here, it is obvious that people are not allowed their opinion and their say without being shot down. |
You are doing precisely what you accuse me of, when I haven't done it at all. Of course everyone is entitled to his opinion - but if you post it, babe, you gotta be able to back it up. I have asked, repeatedly, for ANYONE to justify any government or corporation denying benefits to one worker and granting those benefits to another worker, based SOLELY on orientation. No one has done so. If you consider that "shooting you down," then so be it. I'm just asking for some logic here. Not who has been murdered, not who has slacked off on the job.
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Originally Posted by tardis Again if a straight guy is not interested why does their have to be an urge to convert him ? is that not sexual harrasment ?, knowing full well a guy would probably not report it because of embaressment or reflection of his masculinity. |
Again, I'm not shooting anyone down here, but what does that have to do with the topic? If you ever read any of my posts on
that subject, you would know how far off-base you are using that (off-topic in this thread) tactic against me. I've never tried to "convert" a straight guy, ever. I find guys that do that to be repugnant. But still, I don't see what that has to do with me paying the same taxes as my next door neighbor, but being denied the same benefits and services.
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Originally Posted by tardis You may think i am disloyal to my gay community and that is yours or anyone else's choice but as a gay person i do not want people marching through the town centres in drag or half naked screaming and camping about rights and discrimination as a voice for me, it is embaressing and not needed. |
??? Wow, where did that come from?
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Originally Posted by tardis So with regard to discrimination against gays, i would say they have far more rights and recognition than Women do. Women are still discriminated against in more ways than one and under represented in alot of aspects.
There you go mate- do your stuff, but like everyone else here, it is my opinion and i would not like to be discriminated against for it. |
I never said women are not discriminated against. Again, that's not the topic.
The one difference is, at least in my country, it is still illegal to discriminate against a woman, simply because she is a woman, but it is not illegal to discriminate against a man simply because he is gay.
Final note: I'm not trying to shoot you down, as you say. I'm just trying to get you to apply some logic, and answer some questions - the questions I ask, not some that you make up.
Do you think it is OK to withhold rights, benefits, and services to one individual based solely on that individual's sexual orientation?