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Originally Posted by DC_DEEP This has precisely everything to do with equal protection. What part of my post did you not understand (or not agree with)? You are the one who got off on the tangent, dear. You are the one who brought up "high profile cases," when the OP mentioned things as mundane as paying taxes and being allowed to have dependent insurance.
As for "being lumped in with it," no one accused you of being a ring leader. Just because you don't participate, that doesn't mean that discrimination is institutionalized.
Again, the topic is not about murder. It is about discrimination based on orientation. And we aren't necessarily just talking about the ideas of individuals, we are talking about government and corporate discrimination.
Equal protection means that if you and I do exactly the same job, equally well, we should be compensated equally. We are not. If we pay the same taxes, we should be entitled to the same benefits. We are not. I'm not sure which part of that you don't understand.
I understood your point. I'm not sure why you made it. It does not matter that "we in the west have it pretty easy compared to anyone else." You point is about as relevant as the cliche mother telling her child to "clean your plate, there are starving children in China." If the child eats two more bites, it is not going to keep any other child from starving.
If someone in another country has zero rights, what does that have to do with the fact that I have fewer rights than my fellow citizens in my own country?
As for remembering that it's worse elsewhere than here, well, from my point of view, if I fight for my own rights, that's advancing the rights of others, not ignoring them. |
The only point the OP made that i didn't comment on, was that he was right about being denied marriage. That is the real and true discrimination in this thread. Several people brought up 3 different hi profile cases that ended in murder and thats what i was referring to.
Saying that all you have to be as a gay to be executed was ridiculous. It was just as ridiculous as the poster who chalked everything up to a comparison of living in a dangerous third world country.
Life would be a lot easier for the gay community if you were allowed to get married. I'm for it. I am not a believer in it destroying the sanctity of straight marriage. We've done way more as heterosexuals to destroy the sanctity of marriage than anyone else could dream of.
I was side tracked more on there being this black and white views of straight people and how far they would go to hurt gay people because they don't agree with them. A few people have gone off the deep end with their homophobia and that doesn't represent many people.
The problem that i have with the OP's thread is that it wasnt thought out much because several of the things listed arent direct discriminations towards gays. It was to get people talking, sadly arguing about executions and murders- pretty extreme if you ask me.