I've lost it. I get the notifications to my e-mail box and when I logged on to find the post, it disappeared with along with thousands of socks through the years.

Most of us are guilty here of brining in other things to the equation that was not there in the OP's opening post and the OP has thrown in two at least two separate issues. It is almost impossible to have a rational debate on an issue when there are as many elements bantered around as there are now that we are this far along in the thread.

Having said that. someone didn't understand what I meant and opined that perhaps they didn't read my post right. Some reading my posts have the benefit to include all that I have written in the past to help in determining my intent.

This person was talking about the Internet and health classes made it not necessary to bathe with children. I wasn't talking about 10 year olds. I was talking preschool.

I have said this next statement so many times through the years that I hate to repeat it again, but some weren't here the last time I said it so here goes:

I was referring to the nudity, not the bathing. In my house I bathed with my three sons when they were very little. They would ask if i would get into the tub. But our house is a modern house with small bath tubs. The bathing together came to an end by the time they were four I'm sure if not before. I went in and supervised them.

Same problem with the shower. I did try that. I wasn't comfortable with my sons eyes being six inches from my genitals. Scratch that idea.

The best place for children and parents of the same gender to be together in a nude situation is probably the locker room or dressing room for the swimming pool. That is what the the room was builty for. It isn't a private bathroom. It is normal. Mothers can take their young sons and fathers their young daughters.

This might be something parents should just see happens at about age 2 to 4 years of age. The children won't be able to remember faces and names. It will all be a blur, but they will just "know" that men and women don't look the same. They may not remember why they know that. they just do. I point the later out to say that it is doubtful that if your neighbors son saw his sixthgrade woman teacher in the ladies locker room at age 3 that he is going to remember a face and a body. If the teacher is wise enough to keep her mouth shut, he won't even know that it happened. (I say not wise in the school setting. blurting out that you the teacher took showers with one of your students isn't a very wise move, no matter how innocent it may have been or the age the child was at the time. Somethings are best unsaid.)

I suspect that is why years ago, boys in puberty were made to take mandatory showers. The kids saw other kids in all stages of puberty. Questions about growth and development were noted by all the kids.

I digress here. But I did want to clarify the age and due to the constraints of most home bathrooms that preclude an adult of any size being in the tub at the same time as a child much older than three or four.