Actually, Jason... if you read more of my other posts, you will find that I am quite clear.

WHile I do not think that child sexual experience is as histrionic a tragedy as our puritanical society makes it out... that I feel that the hysteria over the "shame" of sex does most of the harm in trying to recover from childhood sexual abuse...

That does not mean I think child sexual abuse is "okay". Its still abuse... its still inappropriate, and it can still screw up a child for life....



That you don't see an issue is an example of your naivete.
This is not a culture of communal showering.... its a culture wherein showering is something either private or intimate.

Your argument is specious because it assumes that we can not SUSPECT anything unless something illegal occurs.

This is like sayihng that men walking into a bank with masks on should be treated just like any other patron, with no additional suspicion nor investigation, because they have not actually robbed the bank yet.

Its an argument from the perspective of oblivious optimism.



The FACTS are that incestuous pedophilia ALWAYS begins with undue physical familiarity between the parent and the child.

The Facts are that parents can override their own children's feelings of inappropriateness with their own pressures, agendas, and influences... and not even be aware that they are doing so.


And the facts are that, even if the father is NOT a pedophile... at some point the daughter ceases to LOOK like a child... at some point she starts menses and starts giving off the hormonal cues that she is sexually mature...



Human culture has ALWAYS had taboos about certain kinds of contact between parents and children.


If you were arguing that a family going to a nude beach together was not an issue... I would tend to agree.

If you were arguing that a family of nudists sharing the communal living area
was not an issue, I would agree.

Seeing your dad walk from the bathroom to the bedroom naked is not a big deal, if your FAMILY is comfortable with nudity.


However... we are not talking about a FAMILY ethic.... we are talking about something that happens behind a locked door, inside a small, confined space, where physical contact is unavoidable, and where no one else can see what is going on.


I am not calling the man a pedophile... This MIGHT be perfectly innocent.

But its simply unconscionable not to admit that this is suspicious on its face.

There is nothing wrong with a man being naked with his daughter.

But for a man to seek private, confined, and potentially secret time with his daughter, in a context of touching and carressing....

Sorry... where there is smoke... you often find something burning.