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Old 05-08-2008   #77 (permalink)
senor rubirosa
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An interesting exchange:
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Originally Posted by canuck_pa View Post
Dear phe,
There's an old saying you may wish to consider:
It's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and proof it."
Then eloquent old phe, who has never mastered the quote function, replied:
Thanks, I have a great saying for you. "read the post" Then read what i was responding to. If you think its acceptable for Pierre to enter into a public forum and comment about a country that is not his own and its people well... theres no helping you.


Well, let's read the post.Just the first 'graph:
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Originally Posted by phe1249 View Post
Pierre.. again. Fuck You. I dont want to see your cheap frog self in Fla this winter complaining about how much the early bird dinner special is either. Also when your seniors have health issues do not send them to our hospitals because your National Health coverage doesnt pay.. sticking those of us who do with the bill.
Hardly raising the tone there, phe.

Then canuck posted this:

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Originally Posted by canuck_pa View Post
On some issues Canadians have a different set of values than Americans. You may not respect some of our values as I might not respect some of your's, but I respect your right to have them. I expect no less from you. I don't believe capital punishment is morally right. Our government has the right to hold a fugitive from a foreign country if they would face possible death in their own country.
To which the ever eloquent phe replied:
With regard to "values" I dont share those of Canada after all your a nation that routinely slaughters harp seals, ruined the Dionne Quints and vacations with Castro to get a cheap all inclusive fort night holiday. Dont thrust your values at me pal.

Slaughters harp seals? Why are harp seals different from any other animals? Puhleez, phe ... you can do better than that.
Ruined the Dionne Quints? Perhaps some truth in that, but what do we have to equal the slaughter of the American Indians, the bombing of Cambodia, the Iraq War.
Vacations with Castro? Look, if you want to put a helpless people under blockade and do enormous damage to the quality of life of millions of Cubans over several decades, no one has been able to stop you. But the Cuban question is far more complicated than certain Americans can allow themselves to see. And if your whole point is opposition to Communism, your policy no doubt solidified Castro's hold on Cuba.
Please, a little perspective. You should try it ... you might like it.

Then canuck wrote:
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Originally Posted by canuck_pa View Post
In regards to our national health, there are certainly problems which I hope will be corrected but at least in Canada no one has to declare bankruptcy because they can't pay their medical bills. Some Canadians do travel to the US for medical treatment. That's a choice they can make. At times our health system sends people to the US for treatment but their bills are covered by our health plan. There have also been many cases of American citizens moving to Canada, staying until they qualify for our health coverage, get they treatment then move back to the US. And guess who pays the bill?
The ever ready phe has another stirling rejoinder:
On the above. You dont know what your talking about. I did however share that many communities in FL are strapped with healthcare bills when services are rendered to Canadian Patients who are on holiday and in need of health services. Unfortunately their health insurance provider does not pay within a reasonable time period. Case in point is a teenage boy from Guelph Ontario who received a heart-lung transplant at Shands Med Center/University of Florida and the hospital waited for two years for payment only to receive a portion of the total bill.
Dont critize my health care system.. its not yours to criticize.


There are probably delays at times, sure. Such is the nature of bureaucracy.
But a heart-lung transplant won't be a typical case at all.
It's astonishing that you think no one should have anything to say about your health care system.
I mean, what principle are you appealing to? Do you think no American should ever comment on another country's human rights record? Is the civil war in the Congo beyond foreign comment? Where does this idea come from?
Of course, the faults of your health care system can be mentioned, and of course, they are nowhere on a level with the horrors of a foreign civil war.
But many of your own politicians claim that the lack of a national health care system in the United States is a national disgrace.
You've heard them say that, phe. And many Americans agree.

All this said, I respect the United States and its people.
I could live in the United States with great pleasure.
Not the least of American charm is the national tradition of civility.
C-i-v-i-l-i-t-y, phe.
Try it. You might like it.