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Old 05-08-2008   #20 (permalink)
ManlyBanisters
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Originally Posted by marleyisalegend View Post
EXACTLY. this entire argument is based on the notion that a college degree makes you "educated". technically yes but i know some post-grads who can repeat everything their teacher tells them, but put them out in the real world and they're awkard and their overducation causes them to form misguided opinions of different situations and people.

(i.e. some people who know a lot about the extremisms of SOME muslims will tends to think that ALL muslims are violent and blood-thirsty and that violence and terrorism are in fact the objective of the muslim religion)

i'll go on record as saying any day that a college education makes you no more educated than sitting in the garage makes you a car. to some degree, a college degree just means you know how to listen to someone and remember what they told you. it doesn't mean you know how to think for yourself or understand real life situations.

one of the smartest people i knew was my great grandmother who never made it past 6th grade.
I kinda agree and I kinda don't. It depends on the person, what they did in college and how they did it - or what they do to educate themselves if they haven't been to college. Certainly most of the well educated people I know are graduates - But I know a good few very intelligent people who never went to college too, I guess I consider them well self-educated - and I don't consider one better than the other.

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Originally Posted by jason_els View Post
Interesting point. I know quite a few couples where the wife is better educated than husband and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference but then I'm not privy to what happens when they're alone. I think, in these instances, what matters more is income disparity that favors the wife. Men still like to be the primary breadwinners because it's how we measure ourselves as providing for our family, which is our primary consideration in family making. When that disparity grows to the point that there's loss of financial control, then men tend to feel like hired bodyguards, handymen, and sperm depositors. It's important for women to make a man feel needed.

Gay couples are very different, I admit this 100% and I think it's because men tend to be less class-conscious in purely social situations. Men either bond or compete. If they bond then it means there's a common ground that transcends money, which is how American men interpret class. Then there's the great sex. If a couple has amazing sex, that counts for a lot. Alas, we're simple creatures.
As yes, now you mention income disparity is involved in the couples who've had issues with a better educated wife / less educated husband. The man / man dynamics of a gay relationship are certainly different from the woman / man dynamics of a straight relationship. I think that men probably do overcome more differences by concentrating on their sameness in a way that men and women can't (or won't?).