Gotta say I agree.

Porn has gotten to be far more misogynistic than ever before... to the point of being a real turn off for those of us who can not bear seeing a woman treated badly.


In a large sense I think this trend reflects a general male anger and feeling of powerlessness in their relationships with females.

( no- that is not a qualitative judgement against women... just an observation of the general male zeitgeist- men in this culture are feeling more and more marginalized by the women in their lives- and by the women they can not even get into their lives)

Since pornography, both male and female, reflect fantasies about desires each are probably NOT gonna be able to get in real life... male oriented porn is becoming more of a revenge fantasy than about finding a super horny woman.
Sex as a means of getting even....

Again... please understand that it is not PORN that is having this effect on our young men... the porn producers are simply producing more of what our young men are buying.

Ergo--- it is not a cause of disrespect for women... its popularity is rather a symptom of an already existing disrespect for women.

Its intolerable...

Unfortunately... women demanding that men not indulge in such things is only going to exacerbate the problem... as this is partly a result of women already trying to exert too much control over male behavior.

I get the feeling that some of the women here imagine that I am angry at women because of feminist agendas becoming ingrained in our culture.

I hope you can understand that I was an early proponent of the ERA and supporter of feminism.

My primary issue is that the culture became TOO feminized... too condemning of everything masculine.... it went too far.
... again... I am not upset because it made it suck to be a man... but because I can actually see it doing serious damage to the ability of men and women to love and respect one another.

I am upset over how difficult it has become for men and women to simply treat each other with respect over the long term.
And I am trying to understand why.

Just as women were rightfully angry over their treatment in society ( not men's fault... but the way society evolved) Men are now rightfully angry over how they are treated.... ( again, not women's fault... but just how society has evolved)

And, as I have long feared... many Men are reacting to what feels inequitable by blaming women over it.

I think feminism, as an ideology, failed when it elected to blame men for the way things were.

And I am afraid that men are making the exact same mistake, now.

But as can be seen here... it is hard for any of us to examine our own behavior dispassionately... to try and understand how much of how we react to the world was programmed into us.... and hard for us to accept that our actions and beliefs may be harmful to others.


I know I will be castigated for this perspective...
But gals... that offensive image of a man slapping a woman across the face with his dick? Of him forcibly gagging her?

I am telling you that the young men I talk to feel that they have been treated the same way by the feminized society they grew up in. They simply are not articulate enough to express it.


I would rather the men in this culture not make the same mistake... not perpetuate another cycle of anger and rage between the sexes.

But, at this point, I am not sure how we can stop it....