Originally Posted by Irish

How does it feel? Like you're trying to hurt my feelings and going out of your way to be harsh. How does it make me feel? No different than you telling me I have some stray fuzz in my hair.

I'm perfectly aware of the fact that I'm exceptionally underweight, but a lack of extra muscle and useless fat is hardly comparable to a woman five inches shorter and forty pounds heavier than myself.

I don't have an impressive upper body, but I'm in rather excellent shape. I can bench press greater than my own meager body weight, I'm not afraid of pull/chin ups, I can do curls/crunches/sit-ups until my spine is sore from the ground and I can run a mile in a modest 5.5 - 6 minutes. I'm not going to win any medals or high accolades for my strength, but there's a big difference between being fit and being muscular. I'm one, she's neither.

I think Miss Whatsherface is ugly - and her weight has nothing to do with that. In addition to finding her outstandingly unattractive, however, she's also overweight.

Finding her unattractive is a personal opinion. You don't have to agree, I just think she has an ugly face. Not everyone finds me attractive, either. I'm not saying I'm better than her.

Her being overweight is about as close to "fact" as you can get on this particular subject. The cutoff for "healthy" on the BMI scale is 173 lbs. and she's 174. That's just breaking into the "overweight" area, but there still has to be a cutoff somewhere, and she passed it.