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Old 03-14-2008   #135 (permalink)
Industrialsize
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Trinity, time to climb down off of your high horse regarding Obama being up to no good taking his name off of the Michigan Ballot and Hillary being holier than thout for leaving her on:
I quote again:
HEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).

Senator Clinton in her own words;
"Well that was his choice, remember. There was no rule or requirement that he take his name off the ballot, and his supporters ran a very aggressive campaign to try to get people to vote uncommitted. So it wasn't that he didn't participate at all. In fact there was a real effort to get people to vote uncommitted and I still won 55% of the vote."
You say that was a fair result even without Barack Obama's name on the ballot?
"Well that was his choice, Steve"
Wasn't it the Democratic Party's choice that it would not be a result that be counted and most people took their names off the ballot?
"No...I think that the Democratic party said that they would not under the circumstances count the votes. But we all had a choice as to whether or not to participate in what was going to be a primary. And most people took their names off the ballot, but I didn't. And I think that was a wise decision because Michigan is key to our electoral victory in the fall. And I think if there is to be any difference between my proposal that we count those votes and any other course of action, it should be a complete redo of the primary. Nothing else is fair and I feel strongly about that."

Pretty clear. Hillary signed a pledge NOT to participate, and in Hillary's OWN mind, leaving her name on was participiating..her own words and her signed pledge do not lie.....I am soooooooo tired of portraying Obama taking his name off of the Michigan ballot as some sort of political Power play. It's a ludicrous argument and one that even the Clinton campaign doesn't make for fear of being laughed at..........FOR WHATEVER REASONS, both Michigan and Flrodia should not have their votes count because they jumped before the February 5th date as specified bt the DNC. Period. And dont go off about disenfranchised voters, votes not being counted. Thousands of people stayed HOME because they knew their votes wouldn't count, do they count among the disenfranchised?????

If your argument is so strong, why isn't the Clinton campaign using it???Perhaps because she signed a pledge NOT to participate and then participated??