I could not plainly see it, because i did not watch it. Men with other men, no matter what they are exploring, or in whatever context you are attempting to intellectualize it as, are to me, absolutely not attractive, nor interesting, and in fact, quite disgusting.

Now, I certainly respect gay rights, and i support gay marriage, and have gay friends, but that does not mean that your attempts to suggest sexuality as some kind of fluid and everchanging myth just because it affects you that way, affects or applies to me in that way...because it does not.

what is beautiful and erotic to you, is very different to me, and many purely hetero men, when confronted with graphic sexual content.

I certainly do have faith in the definition of HETEROSEXUALITY and BISEXUALITY and HOMSEXUALITY.

You can philosophize and write essays, but it does not change the fact, that for many/most hetero men, gay sex is not something sought or desired or wanted to be viewed. Those men that do want to experience that, and fantasize and act on it, are in fact not heterosexual men, but either bisexual, if they in fact have sexual relations with both sexes, or gay, if they have it exclusively with other men.

You do not have the right to try and interpret the sexuality of others, when in fact, you cannot experience what they experience...you can only speak for yourself, and since you are not a purely straight/heterosexual male in the defined sense, you are in no position to tell me what i am feeling/or what is attractive or desirous to me, anymore so then i can tell you what you may feel in terms of your desires.


and yes, actions do help determine who you are, absolutely among many other things.

and I do not care what Aristotle had to say about actions and feelings...

show Aristotle an Xtube porno involving say two guys blowing each other and ask him what he thinks.

It is doubtful you will get an analysis...but you would likely get one of three or four responses

1. desire
2. curiousity
3. disinterest
4. disgust


One thing that I have learned in my time on this site, and in dealing with many bi-sexual or gay men, is that i have learned a great deal from many of them...most of it positive, however, There is a sizeable portion of the gay/bi community, that seems intent on insisting that all straight men seem to have a desire hidden in them somewhere for gay sex or gay desires...

The only proof those people have of that is there own experiences, and since they are not in fact hetero, how would they know?

It seems as intolerant to me to hear that as when you hear those asshole religious groups say stuff like "oh we'll just take the gay kids to camp and convert them, since it is correctible"

It is just as wrong and unfair.


I was involved in a discussion on here a few weeks ago with a poster who insisted that a man enjoying a girl rimming him was somehow indicative of being "gay to some percentage"


You don't have the right to judge or determine what i Feel or what the true feelings of other purely hetero men are and certainly not without the benefit of actual experience of being a purely straight male in fact regard to desires.

I have a gay parent (male) and i am nothing like him...I find his desires and actions repulsive, in terms of sexual relations, but i respect that they are his desires and his relations, not mine and they are his to do and choose...and i share nothing of the same desires.