Honoring Large Size

H8Monga: miket, forgive me for what I've said earlier. I've seen the light now. Meathose, you are truly great.

Okay, um, let's bring this back to square one because I think people are getting overly feisty about a simple point.

I'm sure Mike meant not more in offering "congratulations for the well hung" than a simple affirmative nod, a smile, or even an afforded quick glance for its own recognizance. Perhaps he might be overdoing it a bit with the "humble respect." By no means do I expect some average Joe out there in the world to drop down on all fours and bow to me, nor do I expect any sort of deference. It's just a dick, after all. But at the same time, I'm willing to recognize this particular one's bravery. Let's face it. Who among you would know some guy to have the guts to say even something as removed as, "Man, I'm not trying to give you the wrong idea, but you're hauling around a pretty big fuckstick..."

Even something that coated in machismo and distanced reverence deserves a shred, if anything, of honor for having the courage to admit that. Mike may very well run the risk of getting into a nasty situation should he make such an "advance" on the wrong guy, but chances are -- well, hell, if he said it to me, I would smile back, giving him thanks, and move right along. Just that simple.

So, with that said...

Who are you, DMW, to deem someone obsessive just because he doesn't mind making a remark? It's just a simple word of thanks. Okay, okay, if he dedicates his livelihood to anyone who he may think has a sizeable dick, or searches relentlessly on the Internet for real-life contacts or pictures of well-endowed men, or if he can't properly perform in the bedroom without envisioning himself with a ridiculously huge phallus... that's problematic.

And call me crazy, Tott, but I don't quite see what's wrong with Mike's more positive attitude. So long as he isn't prostrating himself into subservience in the presence of other seemingly well-endowed men, it sounds like a hell of a better mindset to have than perpetual jealousy or envy. And with that said, let's just be careful in assuming too much on what Mike might or might not be saying/doing in the presence of such men. For all I know, he could just nod and smile at a hung guy. It seems like he's on the right track along with everyone else who recognizes that, among the distributions for dick size, some people are dealt better hands than others. So he's not living his life perpetually eaten up with his average-sized endowment and he's not meticulously sneering at every individual who comes by, packing a little more than he, secretly wishing/hoping/praying for these "big-dicked swaggarts" to fall from grace. He's just being who he is and enjoying the company; no big.

Respect may imply merit, I agree, but there's nothing wrong with recognizing some admirable quality and leaving it at that.

Geez.

tott666: [quote author=DeeBlackthorne link=board=relationships;num=1054190391;start=0#16 date=06/05/03 at 2247]And call me crazy, Tott, but I don't quite see what's wrong with Mike's more positive attitude. * *[/quote]

You call it positive, I say fetishist. Have you read his other posts?

He constantly refers to small/average men as unlucky, lesser, less manly in the important way, unfortunate etc, etc. Larger men are worthy of praise, congratulation, respect, awe, are more manly etc, etc. Note that it's the persons he's talking about, he's actually appraising people based on their dick size.

He talks about what a turn-on it is to be humiliated because of his small dick (at least in fantasy) in front of hung men, etc, etc. If that isn't indicative of at least a slight fetish, I don't know what is.

meathose10: Thanks Dee , for your clear common sense. All miket is saying is he wishes he had a big dick and admires a guy with major equipment when he sees him. He's trying to encourage friendly dialogue and communication between both ends of the spectrum. How terrible!I think it's pretty amusing these well-hung men adamantly stating size isn't important and berating someone who finds it impressive and powerful because they're not as blessed. Hey - you guys never HAD a small cock , so where's this great wisdom coming from? Geez is right!
And tott , mike's not appraising PEOPLE based on their dick size - he's appraising the dick size! And I don't remember him ever using the word 'humiliate'...He feels unfortunate because his penis is small. So? That's honest. I don't think I'd like it much myself were I in his shoes....And what's wrong with a fetish? I hope this can proceed as a reall topic instead of some personal attack venue - now THAT'S humiliating.

Finnmark: I find the posts on this topic, which I've just chanced upon, absolutely fascinating. *If I am 'obsessive' about anything, it's about LPSG - which I only joined a comparatively short time ago (March, I think ?), though hundreds have joined since. *Wish we heard more from the great 'silent majority', btw!

Obsessive because of the immense range of personalities who contribute to the LPSG kaleidoscope: *tangling, arguing, slagging each other off sometimes, and not seldom showing insight, kindness and support. *And on a vast range of subjects: *I particularly enjoyed 'George Bush and the greatest country ?' recently. *And nothing to do with dicks at all!

But this thread is. *It homes in sharply (and apparently disturbingly) on the 'big tool', which is precisely what this site is all about. *How desperately wound up, unhappy, psychologically disturbed, proud, vain, envious (even 'humiliated' ?) we are throughout life, by that endlessly fascinating attachment. *We know it's not 'the person', yet it gets confused with the person. *The man who is 'owned' by the big dick is our hero and (stupid, unpleasant as he might be) basks in its reflected glory. No single anatomical or physical feature of the male form is more focussed on or thought about. *(Can we imagine a Support Group for small ears or large noses, or even big bums ?) * Truly 'the tail wags the dog'.

The penis isn't just a sexual tool and mark of manhood. *That would be enough to excite us. *It's not too much of an exaggeration to say that it has a life of it's own: *not so much a part of me (as my hand, or leg or stomach), but an entity (though attached) that I RELATE TO. *The psychology of this is deep, and this isn't the place to travel further, even were I capable. *But by this token also we are tempted to judge other males, that is to identify them, admire them, value them, to feel good - or otherwise - in relation to them, by the Criterion of the Dick; * to which the body (the person) is perchance attached.

This is the strange obsessive streak that runs through our human (male) sexuality, dominates so much of our thought, and gives rise to a flourishing outfit like LPSG! *Which is both a kaleidoscopic melting-pot of personalities and views and also a vast safety valve for the largely - hitherto - unspoken secret fears and histories, so often sexual or sexually related, that stew away in most of us.

This little topic seems to have touched a sore spot, but none the worse for that. *Why not ? *Thanks for everyone's contribution. *A personal snag, however: *it feeds my obsession, and tempts me to spend longer on this amazing site than I should.

14yo: respect wasn t really the word i meant, i just couldnt find one to suit ... maybe admiration is more like it.

[quote author=DeeBlackthorne link=board=relationships;num=1054190391;start=0#16 date=06/05/03 at 2247]Who are you, DMW, to deem someone obsessive just because he doesn't mind making a remark? [/quote]

It's not about a remark; it's about his saying the same thing over and over and over ... and then starting a new thread to say it again! A large portion of the larger guys view of smaller guys thread ... remember that thread? pages upon pages long ... was miket praising big cocks with religious fervour, or meathose either praising his own big cock or praising miket for praising big cocks. Excuse me if I find miket's tantric adoration of phallocracy to be obsessive, but after rereading a few of his posts in the other thread, I can't interpret it any other way.

tott666: [quote author=meathose10 link=board=relationships;num=1054190391;start=0#18 date=06/06/03 at 0157]And what's wrong with a fetish?[/quote]

There's nothing wrong with having a fetish. Sorry if it seemed like I was saying there was.