First Big One You Saw

oldman9x7: Dee:

It strikes me that you and Pecker are being a bit judgmental. As it happened, I was still in an active relationship with this older man until I was either 15 or 16. Was that still pedophilia?? In those later years I probably sought him out more often than not

Another item: a couple of years after we had stopped seeing one another so much, I contracted Malta Fever and was bed bound for several months - dropped to 90 lbs. - not much at 6'2" - and was told later that I was not expected to make it through. During this time, Neely wasdriving a truck, making local deliveries, and still he stopped at our house almost eveeryday to check on my condition. My mother told me that a number of times he had broken down and wept after seeing me. I have never thought other than that he genuinely loved me. Surely, you can understand that.
Gramps

kyle: Judgmental with good reason. A grown man blowing an 8-year-old boy is the very definition of pedophilia. The fact that you pursued him was likely a learned behavior, and it's not unheard of that a pedophile emotes caring feelings for their victims.

If you choose to cherish the memories that's certainly your business but you shouldn't expect rousing support for such disturbing events which most people consider traumatic.

I just pray you didn't continue the cycle of abuse on other children when you were grown.

oldman9x7: I'm confused. How is it that we read so many reports in THESE POSTS about 8 to 15 year olds being "helped" by their loving aunt or step-mother and I don't recall anyone screaming , "pedophile". Plus, a good many of this group profess to be much into oral sex so I don't think that's the sticking point. So where DO you come up with all this rightiousness?

I am 83 years old and I can tell you that I never, ever felt that I had been "abused", and for all your hokey-pokey psychoanalysis let me just say that I have been stricrly hetero my whole life. Give yourself a little more time and maybe when you can view life from my vantage point you'll understand that setting yourself up to judge "others" is neither wise nor advantageouus. In fact, the best that any of us can do is to be true to ourselves and see that our own skirts are clean of the sins for which we would condem others.
Gramps

Finedessert: Good Grief, At almost 71 years of age I thought I was the old timer on this board.

When I was 8 years old I was playing around with other boys my age and anyone else that I could play with, that includes older men in the park. In other words I was always looking, and nothing was against my will, I wanted it.

Grandpa

oldman9x7: AMEN, Grandpa. Now THAT'S the kind of rightiousness that I can understand. We must be kin in some way. I was also "on the prowl" but I got lucky. Beside the instance here in "1st Bi One" and also in "How I Lost My Cherry" I found that a neighbor girl, same age as me, was interested in male equipment and experimentation with same. Be assured that I obliged her BOTH ways. Those were the days, my friend!
Gramps

balls: Regardless of what you thought or how you felt, you were molested. It is the duty of a society to pass judgement on such behavior, that is why we have laws.
Did your parents approve of your relationship with the older man? Did they say, "Sure, go ahead and suck his dick." You make it sound like it was a very normal occurence, it isn't. You were molested, he should have been charged and sent to prison. The scare thing is you were probably not the only one he molested.
By the way, the reason your relationship slowed and probably ended is because you were no longer a little boy.

bradleeM: Balls et al.,

A point made by the two gramps..........is that Society is selective in its condemnation of adult/child sex.......when it involves two males the outrage is vehement and violent...................when it involves female/male it is not.

What is often found in cases of abuse is that there is no animosity toward the older of the participants by the younger when it involves participants in puberty and under.

I do not condone sex between adults and minors, under no circumstances...............but one must realize that there are cases such as that described above. Whether we want to believe it or not, human beings are sexual beings at any age. But, the adult is expected and must behave in an adult manner and not encourage or take advantage of a young person who exhibits early sexual urges.

Society must have standards of behavior, how it disburses punishment for offenders is what needs to be addressed. Everyone in every society is taught sexual behavior by an older person. Societies throughout the world are still confused as to what age this behavior should be legal.

For any of us to condemn anyone for anything shows a double standard on each of our parts. For none of us is exempt from temptations and we all have a variety of thresholds at which those temptations are crossed.

This is a discussion board and people are going to discuss their experiences on this board. Some will be liked by some of us, some will not be liked, voice your opinion , but why condemn someone for something that happened 75 years ago that had a positive effect on the younger participant. I do not agree with that and I am surprised at the result, but then, life is full of surprises whether we agree with them or not.

balls: BradleeM:
I agree with some of what you are saying but not all. There is an inconsistency with how society treats men and women who have sexual relations with teenagers. This man was eight years old at the time the abuse started, a child. Society would come down just as hard on a woman who molested an eight-year-old as a man. The only difference would be that the woman would probably be portrayed as mentally or emotionally ill, and the man as a plain old pervert.
I wasn't condemning him for what happened to him but I do, and society does, condemn the older mans behavior, and rightly so. The only problem I have with "oldman" is the fact that he hasn't grown to understand the difference between right and wrong when it comes to child adult relationships.
If this board is about supporting or justifying pedophilia, how do I remove my name from it?

Aeden2: Its not anyones job to pass judgement about right and wrong, especially on an online message board. No one knows the whole story except oldman9x6. A question was asked and he responded with his experience. If you dont like it, don't read it. And for god's sake, this was what? 70 YEARS ago? Let it go.

youngdad41: The first big cock I saw was my dad. I remember i got in the shower when I was 6 or 7 with him. I was the youngest, my brother was alot older.

i begged my mom and dad to let me take showers for a while, but they said no, I was too young.
Finally I got my chance.


My mom went to a funeral of her aunt and went away for a week. My brother went with her to drive.

The first night alone with my dad, and after dinner he said it was time to take my bath but said that I could tak a shower but with him. I was very excited to be a 'big boy". So i went into his room and took my clothes off and waited for him to do the same. I sat on the bed and watched him undress. When he took off his boxers, I couldn't believe my eyes. It was uncut with a thick head and skin covering some of the head, about 6 in long and very thick. He pushed my head toward the bathroom and we got in the shower.

He soaped my body first to get me clean. Then I sat on the ceramic bench and watched him. he soaped for a while and spent alot of time onhis cock and balls. He got a little bigger and bigger. i was just awed.

He let me play under the spray for 15 minutes more as he watched. I always asked myself why I was so amazed, and now I know. ;)

mr17yearold: i do not see how u can be amazed at 6 or 7 years old of a big penis??? at 6 or 7 you have no concept of penis size, nor are you worried about it... so i am just very confused

Donk: [quote author=mr17yearold link=board=meetgreet;num=1038495269;start=30#40 date=01/29/03 at 04:37:57]i do not see how u can be amazed at 6 or 7 years old of a big penis??? *at 6 or 7 you have no concept of penis size, nor are you worried about it... so i am just very confused[/quote]

I would be inclined to agree with that based on my personal recollection that I never paid much thought to penis size until at least age 11 or 12. But I have had a few incidents where boys even younger than that have come into a public restroom while I was using the urinal and just stood gaping at my endowment. A couple of times when there were two boys I have overheard one remarking to the other about "his thing." So some young boys at least have some awareness (though they probably don't connect it with sexual things).

I don't mind stares from adults, but this kind of attention from kids disturbs me. Plus I am concerned that it might affect them psychologically if they grow up comparing their own development to this glimpse of mine. So if there are young boys already in the restroom when I enter or if it is a place with lots of kids where one could easily walk in, I will take efforts to keep my privates hidden or use a stall.

You'd be surprised what six-year-olds know, actually. I saw an article on sex and violence in the media recently; you'd be surprised at the statistics.

[quote author=Donk link=board=meetgreet;num=1038495269;start=30#41 date=01/29/03 at 05:47:04] "... But I have had a few incidents where boys...have come into a public restroom when I was using the urinal and just stood gaping at my endowment. ...So some young boys at least have some awareness (though they probably don't connect it with sexual things).

--and----

I don't mind stares from adults, but this kind of attention from kids disturbs me. Plus I am concerned that it might affect them psychologically if they grow up comparing their own development to this glimpse of mine. So if there are young boys already in the restroom when I enter or if it is a place with lots of kids where one could easily walk in, I will take efforts to keep my privates hidden or use a stall. [/quote]


Donk: I commend you for this "wisdom call"; thoughtful discretion, and overall good judgment, ---IMHO.

It just seems prudent to not introduce the issue of "size" so early-on in life for these young guys...(they'll be dealing with it soon enough, inevitably.)

I can't recall "when" in early life that I encountered my first sighting of a big one. It must have been at a very young age though, because I desired a huge size for my "growing goal" throughout my early life. And, obviously, too, I must have witnessed a "huge one" on a TALL man because, as I became tall (eventually to 6'4") I have carried the premise that I had to be hung about 10" to 12" FLACCID (!) to look "balanced" or--proportionate to my stature. To this day, I still have certain days (just read my other posts!) when I think of myself as "under-endowed" ...when in reality (at 7+ inches, flaccid), I know I'm really not.

I just believe this distorted view of size for me---began very, very early in life...for just about as long as I can ever remember---I have been very "obsessed" over being "adequate"; looking "correct"-- meaning HUGELY, MONSTROUSLY-HUNG. I'm talking YEARS of agony; ridiculous-yes. But, very real...sometimes tormenting.
I just know some of our fellow lpsg members (according to their many candid, painfully-honest posts, can relate to this as well)

You (and I) may (and, probably will) have some critics out there who will reject your expressed view of being careful around the younger boys and what they see. But, I am going on record here..my on-line friend, as agreeing with you on this one--whole-heartedly.

Donk: Frankly, I welcome any criticism from anyone who thinks it is a good thing for adult men to introduce things sexual to young boys. Even in this modern world, there is still such a thing as right and wrong and we are on the right side of this issue.