Altogether an interesting thread. First - the vitriol that was generated: not attractive. Secondly - the fact that LPSG is NOT by any means an explicitly Gay site, though - predictably - it attracts many (me for one). But that being the case, Thick can make his point even if it was best ignored, rather than responding in like vein. Lastly (and no doubt you'll shoot me for this), the question of Kalle's 'unforgettable encounter'. If it did take place, I'll bet it was, and lucky him. One takes him at his word ... yet it has something of the feel of a "dream lead-on" about it: a fantasy 'to encourage the others' ?